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  • Unknown A
    Welcome to the David Pakman Show. We've been talking about the debasement and the coarsening of our political climate in the United States. And exhibit A in making such a case would be the first cabinet meeting of the new administration which took place yesterday. Yes, Elon Musk was there. Why? We don't know but he was and we'll talk about it. Yes, Donald Trump used the words, what were they? Bloated, disgusting, something else. We will talk about it. But one of the most disturbing moments in the first cabinet meeting yesterday was Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Bobby, right as Trump likes to say, brushing off as typical, as normal, as not a big deal that there is a massive measles outbreak in Texas. Now Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Isn't stupid. He's wrong about a lot of things but he's not stupid. And so he knows exactly how to respond to try to minimize the importance of this outbreak.
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  • Unknown A
    But he's missing a couple of key elements. And by the way, a child has now died thanks to the anti vax caused measles outbreak in Texas. So let's listen to what Bobby had to say and then we'll talk about the details. A measles outbreak in Texas at the moment in which a child is reported to died. Do you have concerns about that? Have you asked Secretary Kennedy to into that?
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  • Unknown B
    Why don't we bby do you want to speak on that? We are following the measles epidemic every day. I think there's 124 People who have contracted measles at this point main in Kamesas County Texas mainly we're told of the Mennonite community. There are two people who have died but we're watching it and there are about 20 people hospitallies mainly for quarantine. We're watching it out a post on a yesterday and pre continue.
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  • Unknown A
    It's just, you know, there's a little epidemic, a little bit of an outbreak here. Now a few of the things that are critical to understand that Bobby doesn't mention is it's mostly in the Mennonite community. What characteristic, what tradition, what reticence to do something is common to the Mennonite community that might explain this. Oh that many of them don't vaccinate their children might be a key thing to say. It also might be relevant for the secretary of Health and human Services to say hey here's the thing. We don't need to panic about this not because it isn't serious but because we have a safe and very effective Vaccine for measles. This is a community where antiax sentiment has spread. They don't have herd immunity. But what the American people can do, if you're worried about your kids, we can keep our own kids and everybody safe by getting the very safe and very effective measles vaccine.
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  • Unknown A
    That would have been the thing to say as the top cabinet level health official of the United States of America, but he didn't say that and instead he just sort of downplay the whole thing. Now, measles outbreaks are not normal. In the modern era, 124 cases in Texas would be a sign of a public health problem and these outbreaks are preventable through vaccination. Now, when Bobby says we have outbreaks, sometimes they aren't this big and people don't typically die. Measles is very contagious, it's very dangerous. And what we have here is an under vaccination caused situation. And so when he says it's not unusual, it minimizes that. No, it's not unusual to get four cases, but it is unusual to get 124. This is the worst outbreak in decades. It's not a benign illness. There are people who say measles must not be that bad because I don't hear about a lot of people dying of it.
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  • Unknown A
    The reason is the vaccines. But getting measles can lead to complications. Pneumonia, encephalitis, it can lead to death. You don't need to look 50 years ago to find deaths. We've got two right now in Texas because of this outbreak and of course before vaccination, more than 2 million people a year died of measles. So when Bobby says it's normal, we follow it. But we have these. He's ignoring the severity of this one. He's ignoring the role of vaccination in being able to prevent this. 97% effective. Is the vaccine not at giving you a less serious case of measles, at preventing it altogether? And you do need about 95% of the population to be vaccinated to achieve what's called herd immunity, protects those who can't be vaccinated infants, immunocomromised people. I spoke on the award winning and world famous bonus show yesterday about how when my daughter was seven months old, she had not yet received her MMR because you get it at 12 months typically.
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  • Unknown A
    And we went to the pediatrician and I said with tears in my eyes, ma'am, what about going to England? Should we be worried about taking her to England? Which we did when she was seven months old because she hasn't yet had this vaccine. And the pediatrician looked at me with straight face. A tear welled up in the corner of her eye and it started dropping and sort of traced the curvature of her mouth. And she said, sir, if you were going to some anti vax parts of the United States, I would be far more worried than about you taking your daughter to England. And then we went to England and everybody on the plane saluted and cheered and said, sir, you've been treated so unfairly. And she didn't get measles. Okay, so in any case, some of that story is true. Bobby Kennedy Jr dismissing this it's typical.
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