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Unknown A
Since the massacres of October 7th, Israel has been hard hit by more than 20,000 rockets and drones. People often ask me, what can I do to help. Well, I wholeheartedly recommend the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
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Unknown B
With hundreds of homes ruined or destroyed, the fellowship is on the ground bringing emergency food to the elderly. Urgent need.
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Unknown A
It's time that God fearing people stand with our Jewish friends, have some hot food and respond to God's calling on all our lives.
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Unknown C
Without further ado, I want to bring in Representative Chip Roy. There was a lot of action on the House floor last night. Congressman Roy, thank you so much for making the time here. You are one of the leaders on this, what I call fiscal sanity bringing, reining in this addiction to spending within the House. Congressman, genuinely for Americans all across the country, thank you for being such a loud voice on this. Tell us what happened last night. Bring us up to speed. There was a lot of, you know, theater last night. Tell us what happened.
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Unknown D
Yeah, first of all, great to be on. Great to be on the show and, yeah, proud to get out there and try to fight for some level of fiscal sanity. I would tell you that I think what we passed last night out of the House of Representatives initiatives was a very small step, but an important step in the right direction. What we did and what we passed out of the Budget Committee on which I serve, and the Rules Committee on which I serve, and then the House floor is we set a floor of spending restraint, of spending reductions. Now, let me be very clear. This is Washington speak. This is actually reductions and increases. We are not yet to the point where we've embraced the, you know, the need to have the cuts that reduce the spending. Doge is doing that. We need to in Congress.
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Unknown D
What we passed yesterday was a reduction in increases in spending of about $1.5 trillion a floor. We can go higher. We should. So we actually get the cuts and. But then we set that floor in place and we tied that to the tax policy. We tied that to extending President Trump's tax cuts and then being able to provide additional tax relief. But we put them together so that we can basically be responsible to ensure deficits will go down. We're not where we need to be yet, but it was a step when you pass the budget. Now the Senate has to do it. Once we get those aligned, then we have to do the actual work of reconciliation, where we do all of the votes on the specific measures, the tax policy and the spending. My requirement to my colleagues is we must reduce deficits. We must bring down Spending.
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Unknown D
And we've got to embrace Doge and the discretionary side and make sure that we deliver reduced deficits. This was a step forward. And the drama was there were a few of my colleagues, mostly on the right flank, who wanted more. And you know what? I did too. But I had already basically given my word in order to move this through committee to get the floor in the spending restraint and the tie to tax policy. So a few others fought for some more good things. I think we'll get some good results out of Victoria and Warren Davidson and others that demanded more spending restraint.
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Unknown C
Okay, so I mean, you got to the heart of the matter where a lot of people talk about spending cuts, but what they really mean is reductions in the growth of spending. Now, we've heard a lot of talk about getting budgets back to pre Covid levels on a very fundamental level. Why is that? Not every Republican in Congress first instinct. I mean, the budget expanded. What happened to that money? Where did it go? Why can we not get back to the four or five trillion dollars a year spending? Just educate our audience in a very Washington way. Why can we not just simply say, hey, we didn't need that money, you know, the last couple years we were happy with 4 1/2, $5 trillion worth of spending. Why can't we just go back?
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Unknown D
Yeah, well, there's two reasons. One, members of Congress don't have the courage, and two, Doge hasn't illuminated as many things that we need to cut yet that I think we're going to be able to cut. And I think that's going to happen. A lot of these things are things we know, but until Doge puts it out there, it's harder to get some of my friends in Congress to have the courage to go cut. So what does this mean? You pointed out so for the average viewer out there, and I think Charlie's talked about this too. Pre Covid, we were spending about four and a half trillion dollars this year. We're at seven trillion. Now, let me put in context what we passed last night. We passed a bill that will simply reduce the increase in spending by about 150 to $200 billion a year. That is compared to a $7 trillion current spend.
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Unknown D
At the end of the 10 year budget window, we will have spent $84 trillion. We will have taken in about 60 something trillion dollars for a rough increase in the deficit. The more debt of $20 trillion. I'm not painting a great picture yet, am I? I had very serious reservations about moving this bill, but here's why it was important. It set the stage with a floor of spending restraint. It opened the door to reforming Medicaid, which we must do because it is currently being used to scam taxpayers to give money to able bodied Americans and illegal aliens at the expense of those who need it the most. We need to reform it. My colleagues are afraid of that or wrong. And we need to hold our colleagues accountable and discretionary to take the Doge cuts like USAID and implement them. Let me remind you, Eli Crane, my conservative friend from Arizona offered an amendment because all of us knew, all of us conservatives knew that USAID was bad.
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Unknown D
He offered an amendment to cut it by 50%. Republicans voted for it. 102 Republicans voted for it. 114 Republicans voted against it. That was in the fall of 23 because of DOGE. I think that vote today would be different. But this is what we're up against. I'm answering your question in a long form. That's why it's a problem. We have two and a half trillion. You ask why it went up. Part of that's inflation because of the ridiculous policies under Biden, the energy policies, the big spending. And then it's the spending and all of that raised it from 4 1/2 to 7 trillion. Keep in mind the total spend in 1987 was a trillion dollars. It was 4.5 trillion. In 2019, it's already up to 7 trillion. We've got to act. The Senate's going to have to stand up, work with us to actually embrace additional spending restraint.
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Unknown C
Yeah, And I think you hit on a really important piece here. This is the Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security piece of it, the entitlements piece of it, which is considered political poison for anybody to try reforming it. Right. And I know we're going to try and focus on the waste, fraud and abuse that is certainly in those programs. Just moments ago, President Trump commented on this. Let's go ahead and play cut 181.
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Unknown B
Spending bill that passed last night aims to cut $2 trillion.
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Unknown E
Right.
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Unknown B
Can you guarantee that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security will not be touched?
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Unknown E
Yeah, I mean, I have said it so many times. You shouldn't be asking me that question. Okay. This will not be read my lips. It won't be read my lips anymore. We're not going to touch it now. We are going to look for fraud. I'm sure you're okay with that. Like people that shouldn't be on people that are illegal aliens and others criminals in many cases. And that's with Social Security, we have a lot of people. You see that immediately when you see people that are 200 years old that are being sent checks for Social Security. Some of them are actually being sent checks. So we're tracing that down and I have a feeling that Pam is going to do a very good job with that. But you have a lot of fraud. But no, I'm not, we're not doing anything on this.
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Unknown C
So he is adamant we're not going to touch entitlements. I mean, I hate to put you on the spot here, Congressman, but earlier in that press conference he said we're going to balance the budget. And I have to assume that he's talking about balancing the budget through rooting out waste, fraud and abuse and growth. Because can you do it? Can you balance this budget without touching entitlements?
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Unknown D
So first of all, we can absolutely balance the budget with a combination of all of those things. Right. The President is correct that we must have economic growth, we must have spending restraint, which I think the President has agreed said we must have cuts that will eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. He talks about repealing the massive subsidies under the inflation reduction Act. Those things are absolutely true. We also need to get rid of the regulatory state that is constraining economic growth. Right. And those things that are impeding Americans being able to go produce. Well, but what I would say to this is we have an obligation and a duty to reform Medicaid. Why? Because it was designed as a program to help those who are disabled and frankly the people who are not able bodied. Right. That's how it was designed. We have a duty to the extent tax dollars are going to be committed to that end, then we have a duty to make sure that's what, it's what's done.
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Unknown D
Most Americans don't know that after Obamacare, able bodied Americans were given a higher federal matching rate, a high rate, 90%. The dollars that go from the feds to go say we're going to go fund Medicaid, a higher rate for the able bodied expansion population on Obamacare, I think that's wrong. It is being gamed by California, it is being gamed by other states for basically to funnel money so they can get federal money while they overly expand the population. Whereas other states like Texas that didn't expand, we're not, we don't have as high of a number. So we've gotta fix it. We gotta make sure that only the able bodied, that the able bodied aren't on it and that illegal aliens aren't on it. And that would be the reforms we need to put in place, and we can do it.
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Unknown C
Well, I think that's smart. And by the way, I do believe there's a lot of potential for growth, revenue growth, and, you know, Trump's announcing his gold card for $5 million. I actually think that's kind of smart, especially if we could sort of reform some of our other broken immigration policies. I want to give you the opportunity. Congressman Roy, we've got about 45 seconds here. What happens next in this budget process? And I agree these are some big wins. Putting that floor on spending that we can go higher is key. What happens next?
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Unknown D
Well, the Senate's going to have to now look at our product. They've sent a version over, their version, which was a skinnier one to deal with border and defense. They're going to look at ours. They're going to try to figure out what they're going to do. My guess is they're going to try to expand the tax side of it, make them more permanent. I support that comma, however, provided they also expand the spending restraint side. We've got to do our part. We've got to be honest. We've got to do math. And the singular objective should be to reduce deficits immediately, not based on some future promises. And our budget yesterday was only a step. It didn't get the job done. We have more work to do.
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Unknown C
Well, Congressman, I know that you are one of the good guys in there fighting. Charlie has your back. We have your back. Thank you for all your hard work you're doing there. Cut more, cut deeper. As Mr. Wonderful is telling Doge, we tell you the same thing. Thank you, sir.