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  • Unknown A
    Joe Rogan podcast.
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    Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience Train my day.
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  • Unknown A
    Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
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  • Unknown B
    Like, imagine having to be that measured in. In everything you say all the time. Just stick around talking.
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  • Unknown A
    That's my whole life.
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  • Unknown B
    That's stressful.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, it's super stressful. Especially if you're a little intoxicated. You know, you get a couple of whiskeys in you, you start talking shit. You gotta be responsible for every word that comes out of your mouth, even if it's stupid. But, you know, I think people get it. They get that people are human beings and they can stumble. Like people they forgave a lot of Biden stumbles until they were like, what the fuck? You know, a lot of people, like in 2020 were like, there's no way. There's no way he's gonna do it. He was too old to run when it was 2006.
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  • Unknown B
    He's kind of always been known for the gaffes. Like, because I remember when. When Obama was picked him that was the number one concern was like. But he.
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  • Unknown A
    Sometimes he saying, shit, didn't Obama, he was famous. He called his Joe as a. Don't worry, Joe will find a way to things up.
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  • Unknown B
    I never heard that.
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  • Unknown A
    But this supposedly, what's hard to know what the quote was, but supposedly he.
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  • Unknown B
    Got out of all of it.
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  • Unknown A
    I mean, well, that's because the machine was behind him, right? So he gets into office and you saw that Mike Johnson guy, the speaker of the House, he said that he had talked to him. It took a year to have a meeting. And he finally had this meeting with him and he wanted to talk to him about something. And he said, why did you sign this executive order? And it had something to do with liquid natural gas. He said, I didn't sign that. He said, yes, you did, sir. You signed it. Can we get it? And so he has the secretary print it up. He brings it in. He had never read it. So he was just signing executive orders that he didn't even know. He didn't know what it was about. He thought it was about research and it was about shutting it down.
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  • Unknown A
    And so that's a. So there's a bunch of people behind him that want to do things and they think it's for the best interest of the country. And they're all acting as a big group that's like the puppeteer of the president. And that's not how it's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be that way.
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  • Unknown B
    But isn't it like that with every.
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  • Unknown A
    President, I don't know, because I think when a president brings in a new cabinet and the new cabinet starts doing different things, then you see what's happening right now. Right. So they've already found thousands of criminals that had snuck in here and had committed multiple crimes while they were here. And the Biden administration had left them here and they allowed them to stay in these sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, and Trump's just yanking them out and flying them back to Colombia and flying them back to Mexico and flying them back to wherever they're from. Get the fuck out of here. Exporting them in planes. The Biden administration could have done this, too.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but I think. I think they every president to get in there, they do. They do little shit different than the other side. But at the end of the day, the big major shit that would help out the average people, that shit, it always falls short a couple votes.
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  • Unknown A
    Trump is talking about getting rid of income tax and replacing it with tariffs. I asked him about that on the podcast. I thought he was joking around. Yeah, exactly. He was saying that it would be better for the economy, we'd have way more money if instead of you paying tax, these companies should be paying tax. Like, why are they making such a killing off the American people?
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  • Unknown B
    But the companies would just charge us bigger prices, wouldn't they?
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  • Unknown A
    Well, here's the thing. Could they. If we had American manufacturing that can make the same products? No. So the whole reason why you can't.
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  • Unknown B
    Make the same products for the same.
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  • Unknown A
    Price, but if you have other countries charge tariffs, and I think we've charged tariffs in the past, and it's an interesting thing. It's like you make a trade agreement. It's essentially a trade agreement. And his position has always been that one side of the trade agreement was unbalanced, and America does a stupid job at negotiating its trade agreements. So he wants tariffs and everything. That's what he threatened the. The guy from Columbia with. He said because they didn't want to take the prisoners, the flights were coming over and he didn't want to give them approval to land. He said, we're going to tax you. We're going to tariff you 25%. And then, like, in a week, we're going to jack it up to 50%. And this guy wrote like a poem to Trump. It was the most ridiculous thing ever. The guy's a wild dude.
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  • Unknown B
    That's the thing is, like, if you bring in the tariffs, you have to make them so high that the American goods were cheaper by comparison.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, you'd have to really ramp up American manufacturing in a lot of places. Like, we don't make phones. That's one of the craziest things about America. We can't make a phone. We can't even make a phone.
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  • Unknown B
    Make mistakes.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, I mean, maybe we could make a phone. Doesn't there one phone that is made in America? Is there one phone that's manufactured here? I think there is.
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  • Unknown B
    I mean, even if it's assembled, is.
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  • Unknown A
    It the nothing phone?
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  • Unknown C
    Is that it might be assembled here. I think they still have to get some.
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  • Unknown A
    They still have to get shit from China. Yeah. They have to get shit from Taiwan. They have to get shit from India. Yeah. Everybody gets their shit from somewhere.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. I mean, the problem with American manufacturing is you can't do it for. It's cheap because you have to pay people that.
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  • Unknown A
    No, the problem is, first of all, we're addicted to buying new shit all the time. I have a. I have a bunch of phone lines and one of my phone lines. I have an iPhone 11. It's like five years old. I don't notice when I'm using it. As long as it still works. You don't notice on a normal experience. What do I do with my phone? I'm not fucking making complex video rendering. You know, what am I doing? I'm watching YouTube videos. I'm text messaging people. You don't notice. Right. But we're force fed this idea that you're supposed to get a new one every year. Like, it's one of the weirdest things. You get a new TV every year. You get a new computer every year. Why the fuck do you get a new phone every year? But every year they keep pushing us to get a new phone.
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  • Unknown A
    If you make a phone that's American made, more durable, and lasts more than a year, it would be worth a premium, and I wouldn't have to feel bad about, like, slaves in China making it.
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  • Unknown B
    Like, he makes it. Like, the only phone they need to bring back the Nokia phone. Remember those brick phones?
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  • Unknown A
    Yes. Well, don't do that.
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  • Unknown B
    Indestructible.
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  • Unknown A
    Make it dope. Make it a dope phone. But, you know, I don't know, man.
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  • Unknown B
    I don't think. I think we. I think those days are long gone.
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  • Unknown A
    The days of American manufacturing. Well, I think with incentives, with government incentives and people understanding that this competition that we're having is all technologically based. And if all of our technology is getting made in another country, that's essentially a national security issue.
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  • Unknown B
    So, you know, you know what I realize is like, why? Because sometimes, you know, politics comes up in the green room, and I just. I always separate myself from the conversation because I realize what everybody has, regardless of what size, the issues they own is, they. Y'all have hope. I'm cynical. I'm cynical than a. I'm like, this is old, this bit. You know, it's like, for me, I'm like, I see. I see the asteroid coming.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown B
    And I'm like, ain't nothing we'll be able to do about that.
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  • Unknown A
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  • Unknown A
    Listen, I'm interested to see, look, if Robert F. Kennedy Jr gets approved, I'm interested to see if they start removing pesticides and herbicides and all these things that are killing people. If people's health improves, if we remove things from the human diet, if just start educating people on the importance of diet and exercise, I would love to see that.
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  • Unknown B
    But you know, the problem with that is we live in a society where, like, none of that shit's gonna happen unless it make more money than what we already doing.
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  • Unknown A
    That's not necessarily true because you can motivate people. There's a real power in free motivation. And having a government that's like, promoting health in that way would cause a bunch of people to take that step that they've been thinking about taking. So a lot of times, motivation doesn't catch you flat. Motivation catches you looking for motivation.
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  • Unknown B
    Right.
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  • Unknown A
    Like you want to get your shit together. Be like, I just fucking need to get to the gym. I just need something. And then one day the government announces that we are going to turn the health of America around and we are going to promote a national fitness regime. We're going to start bringing it to schools and kids to get people healthier. We're going to bring in organic food and start feeding kids. When you feed them in public schools and you have free lunches, trying to.
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  • Unknown B
    Do something like that.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, she did. She got shut down. Exactly. They shut her right the down. You're going to kill our profits. This healthy because.
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  • Unknown B
    Because that's the other thing. But. But what's different now than. Than what's happening back then is we're so divided. If. If somebody in the government suggested anything was the best, the healthiest thing, at least half the country would be like, I'm not fucking with it. For that very reason.
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  • Unknown A
    Yep.
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  • Unknown B
    You know, it's like so.
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  • Unknown A
    Right?
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. It's like, it's like they attached Obama to Obamacare even though it was. It was not a bad thing. Right.
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  • Unknown A
    Right.
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  • Unknown B
    And if, like, if Trump was literally like, hey, every, every American jumping jacks is the best exercise. People like doing no Trump jacks.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown B
    That's your president's exercise. So it's like, we so divided. Nothing's gonna stick.
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  • Unknown A
    I also think that the problem with, like, healthcare and all these things where people are. You're dealing with a bunch of different games that are being played inside a game that has a function, and that function is health care. Like, it provides health care in a kind of shifty, shitty way. But the. But the game it's playing is make the most money. That's the game it's playing. The game. It's playing a financial game. That's why it's coming up with reasons to deny people and it's using AI to figure out how to deny people and it. They deny a large amount of claims. So it's. You gotta look at it like what it actually is. It's not that it's all bad, but that there's a bunch of different games. Each person in that game is playing their own game. You have thousands of employees, you have thousands of people trying to corporate climb the corporate ladder and make more money and get promotions and make more money for the company and impress the board.
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  • Unknown A
    They want a fucking yacht, bro.
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  • Unknown B
    I'm talking about how much we're divided. But it's weird. That's the one thing they couldn't divide people on. Like, I remember, like after. After that, after the CEO got popped, like on CNN and MSNBC and Fox, the. The narrative was the, like, how dare people be excited? Because at first they tried to do what they do with everything and they. They say, oh, these is. Look at these liberals laughing at death. And then they realize, like, oh, it's. The insurance industry has fucked over everybody.
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  • Unknown A
    Everybody.
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  • Unknown B
    They don't give a fuck who you voted for. They'll fuck.
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  • Unknown A
    That might be the one. Health care might be the one thing that we can come to, like, a bipartisan agreement on that. Health insurance and insurance companies in general, they're just captivated by what a corporation is. A corporation has a responsibility to its shareholders to make the most money. And they just. That's a problem with the whole structure of it, is that no matter what the business is, they find a way to make money more than they find a way to do the thing that they're supposed to be doing well as a service to people.
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  • Unknown B
    If Trump actually fixed health care, he would go down as one of the greatest presidents. He would be like. It would be. I think it would be a whole different, like, if he actually did, like, viable, real change to the health care system that, like, made it work for everybody.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, it used to be that there was no social media, so if you wanted to make a big change, the government could gaslight you on TV in these press conferences and bring out experts, and they could gaslight you and tell you what to do. And that was all the information you had. That doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work anymore. So this is one of the reasons why this is the best time ever to kind of revamp healthcare and revamp, like, the way people think about what is healthy, what is healthy.
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  • Unknown B
    But how are you gonna revamp it in a way that still makes money you.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, it doesn't have to. First of all, you're gonna lose money. The country's gonna lose money. It's like, who's gonna get the money? There's an exchange of money, right? So if a lot of people are sick all the time and a lot of people are on Medicaid and a lot of people are on health insurance, the country's gonna spend more money that's going to go to pharmaceutical drug companies. But it doesn't have to go there. We can't commit to giving it to them every year just because they've figured out a way to keep getting it. That's dumb. The right way to Say, is we have to look at the collective money of the country. Wouldn't it be way better if we spent way less on healthcare because people got healthier, because they figured out there's no easy way to do it. You have to have diet and exercise.
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  • Unknown A
    It's the most important foundation for any healthy human being. It doesn't matter what kind of exercise. It probably doesn't even matter what kind of diet, as long as you're, like, committed to eating healthy, real food. The whole thing is just diet and exercise and movement. That would fucking cure 70% of the problems we have in this country with healthcare, because people would be healthy. And so then you wouldn't be as susceptible to getting sick, you wouldn't be as susceptible to getting injured. There's a bunch of things that would probably likely stack up financially in our favor. So that's how you make money out of it. You make money out of it because everybody makes more money. You make more money if you're healthy. You make more money if you're active, if you're in the bed all the time because you have back surgery constantly, or if you've got this and that.
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  • Unknown A
    You got a lot of interruptions in your life. They're going to hiccup your career, they're going to hiccup your. Whatever you're trying to accomplish in your life if you're dealing with being sick all the time.
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  • Unknown B
    So you think if people were healthier, they would deny less people?
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  • Unknown A
    I think if people were healthier, first of all, you would need way less healthcare first. That's the number one thing. If people were fit and they took care of themselves, there's a giant part of. If you looked at all of the healthcare issues that we have in this country, there's a giant chunk of it that's connected to diet. It's connected to the standard American diet. It's connected to eating too much calories, garbage food, obesity, that all that is possible to shift that in a different direction. You just have to change the way people eat and that you would see other people getting results and then you would want those results. If you hear RFK Jr on TV trying to motivate people to do this, and you see him working out, like, maybe that's the thing you need that takes you from, man, I gotta go to the gym one day.
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  • Unknown A
    Fuck it, I'm going to the gym. This is it. And then if more people do that, there's more healthy people. If there's more healthy people, there's less losers. If there's less losers, the country makes more money. The whole GDP goes up. Everybody. You're. You're going to do better. You're going to do better with whatever you're doing in life if you're healthy, because health is energy.
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  • Unknown B
    But how do you make people like you don't.
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  • Unknown A
    You don't make them do it. But you inspire. And the government has never done that before. Why not try it? Why not try that? Why not try that? Why not? And try to, like, fucking gaslight people until you got to wear a mask in your car or you're going to die Instead of that gaslighting. How about pump them up? They scared the fuck out of everybody with COVID How about they pump everybody the fuck up with health?
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  • Unknown B
    If government wanted everybody to do anything, they have to pay them.
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  • Unknown A
    You know another problem with my theory?
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  • Unknown B
    I give you a tax break if you lose 40 pounds.
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  • Unknown A
    Here's another problem. My theory. Trump eats nothing but McDonald's, drinks Diet Cokes, sharp as a tack. 78 years old. Like, okay, I don't know what to tell you.
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  • Unknown B
    If he came back. If he disappeared for, like, six months and came back just jacked.
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  • Unknown A
    Jacked, shaved, waved his head. Did you see him play tennis with Serena Williams? Nah, he took his shoes off. He's playing tennis with Serena Williams.
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  • Unknown B
    I mean, playing, playing, not playing.
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  • Unknown A
    Like, as good as she can play. She's not gonna embarrass. Volleying back and forth. And he's playing.
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  • Unknown B
    Is he running?
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  • Unknown A
    He plays tennis, man. He can play tennis. Like, the guy plays tennis. Like, he's. I mean, I don't know how to play tennis, so I don't know if it looks good, but I'm looking at him hitting the ball. It looks like he's doing it the right. He doesn't look like me. If I was doing it, I'd be a spaz. I don't know how to play tennis.
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  • Unknown B
    Completely lost. Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah. Well, let's see it.
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  • Unknown C
    It's because it was in 2015.
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  • Unknown A
    Oh, it was. Oh, God damn it. I got lied to by the reels. I thought it just happened. No, no, no.
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  • Unknown C
    2015.
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  • Unknown A
    But check out the tennis. Check this out. She could clearly him up. Oh, that's a nice, gentle serve. Look at it. But look at. Dude, he's firing back.
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  • Unknown C
    Both of his shots are out of bounds.
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  • Unknown A
    He's old.
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  • Unknown B
    I mean, but he is doing better than I would do.
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  • Unknown A
    Oh, way better than me. I mean, he plays tennis. There's video of him playing tennis. There's, like, photos of him playing tennis. So he does do some things. It's like. There's a lot of guys that are too. They can't go to a gym. It's just they don't. They need a purpose or they need something that occupies their brain. So they play golf or they play tennis or they play games. They do. They play a little pickup basketball. They do that for their health because they just can't do the gym thing. I just don't want to do it. So they do something that keeps them active.
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  • Unknown B
    I mean, most of the people I know do shit like that. Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    So he's active.
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  • Unknown B
    Pick up basketball or.
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  • Unknown A
    But that dude just eats cheeseburgers and shit all day long. Like.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    It's like. I don't know what to say.
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  • Unknown B
    But he probably also has zero stress.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, he has a way of letting shit roll off his back. I mean, he had have some stress and that guy shot at him, but even then he gets hit in the ear and he stands up and yells, fight, fight, fight. It's like, is this a movie? Are we in a movie? Is this like a simulation?
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  • Unknown B
    And then his ear healed up like Wolverine, bro.
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  • Unknown A
    It held up pretty quick. You can see a little mark on it. See, there's a little tiny. If you look at it, like, when he's right there, I go, let me see it. And he leaned in.
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  • Unknown B
    You could kind of see, you know.
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  • Unknown A
    The ears filled with blood vessels. That's why I bleed so much.
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  • Unknown B
    Nobody talks about it anymore.
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  • Unknown A
    No. You know what else nobody talks about? The guy who blew up the cyber truck in front of Trump Tower. What happened to that?
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  • Unknown B
    I don't know what you're talking about.
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  • Unknown A
    You don't know that story?
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  • Unknown B
    I don't follow any of the political stuff.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, this isn't even political. This is a weird story. It's a guy who was like, now, has it been confirmed that that's him? Let's pull up the story, because I don't. I don't want to do it. Any misjustice, but this was after the election, correct? Yes, definitely. It was real recent New Year's Day. Okay. New Year's Day. That's. That's how crazy the news cycle is. Like, you forget. You forget what day things happen. Like, was that a year ago? No, it's last week. All right. There's like, something constantly bombarding you all the time. So this dude. Yeah. What is the story behind him? He was a Special Forces guy, right? And he was in. I think he was in a television show with Tim Kennedy. They had, like, a Special Forces TV show where they did something. So this guy's like, you know, he's an operator. He's like a serious soldier.
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  • Unknown B
    Why? A cybertruck.
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  • Unknown A
    And he allegedly committed suicide with a large handgun, a Desert Eagle.
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  • Unknown B
    He rented it. Okay.
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  • Unknown A
    Large handgun. And blew up this thing. It says self inflicted gunshot wound. The whole thing's weird, man. Nobody, nobody could imagine him doing this. Everybody's saying it doesn't make sense. Why would he. This guy knew how to make bombs. Why would he make a shitty bomb like that that doesn't even blow up the building? It just blows him up in the car. And why would he do it in a cybertruck, which is like the most durable car you can buy? Like that whole thing, the cybertruck. You saw that video where I tried to shoot an arrow through it? Oh yeah, my arrow exploded. That thing's solid steel. So why would you blow yourself up in a solid. What, you would get a convertible and fuck everybody up, Right? You, if you were gonna blow up yourself in a car and you wanted to do the most damage, you'd have a car that you'd want to blow apart.
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  • Unknown A
    Those Teslas contain the entire explosion.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I mean, was it. Did he leave some kind of manifesto?
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  • Unknown A
    I don't know if he left a note. Did he leave a note?
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  • Unknown C
    I think so.
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  • Unknown B
    Yep.
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  • Unknown A
    They probably found it like barely smoldering outside. Look, it's like. Remember when they found the. The terrorist pass? The planes went into the fucking World Trade center, blew up in front of everybody's face. Just a gigantic enormous pile of fire. And yet this dude's passport just barely singed on the outside like a Bugs Bunny cartoon falls to the ground.
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  • Unknown C
    That's what the whole Sean Ryan thing was about. Because they sent the email and then it was. Did the guy write the email?
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  • Unknown A
    Right, that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. Now I remember. God, I forgot Sean Ryan was involved in that. And then people were saying that he didn't. That guy didn't send that to got hoaxed. And then Sean Ryan proved that the guy did send that. So he was saying some stuff in there about drones. And what was he saying? Let's put up what he said.
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  • Unknown B
    You know what I realized, man?
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  • Unknown A
    Shout out to Sean Ryan. It said, in case I do not make it to my decision point or onto the Mexican Mexico border, I am sending this now. Please do not Release this until 1 Jan and keep my identity private until then. First off, I am not under duress or hostile Influence or control. My first car was a 2006 black Ford Mustang V6 for verification. First of all, that's not true. That was not his first car. No, no, he had a different car. We'll find that out in a second. Put a tab on that, Jamie. What we have been seeing with drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast. But throughout history the US only we and China have this capability. Our open location for this activity in the box is below. China has been launching them from the Atlantic from sub for years with this activity.
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  • Unknown A
    Recently has picked up. As of now it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they use the balloon for sigint. How do you say that? SIGINT and ISR which are also part of the integrated comm systems. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned aircraft they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they wanted to. It's checkmate. U.S. government needs to give the history of this, how we're employing and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the east coast. I've been followed for over a week now, likely from Homeland or FBI.
    (0:23:01)
  • Unknown A
    And they're looking to move on me and are unlikely to let me cross into Mexico. But I won't because they know I am armed and I have a massive vbied. I think that's vehicle something. Oh, you know you're a military guy. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me. I have knowledge of this program and also of war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in the Nimruz province, Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin, DOD, DEA and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings. 65 were struck because of civ that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. US for a continued strikes. After spotting civilians on initial ISR it was supposed to take six minutes and scramble all aircraft to Centcom. The UN basically called these war crimes but the administration made them disappear.
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  • Unknown A
    I was part of that cover up with US for a and agent redacted. They cut his name off of the dea. So I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either I worked with General Miller's 10 staff and on this, as well as the response to Bala Murgab. AOBS commander at the time redacted. Okay. He said, you need to elevate this to media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation. So he gave his LinkedIn for vetting active duty. You know, he get his profile, the whole. The whole deal. Now, the problem is that was not his first car. So Google what his first car was.
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  • Unknown B
    But why lie about that?
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  • Unknown A
    Because somebody might not have known. Like, if you ask, like, there's a lot of people that say, what was your first car? And a lot of people don't know. I've said it publicly, but, like, how many people know what my first car was?
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  • Unknown B
    Right.
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  • Unknown A
    Right. So if you're a dude and you're hanging out with other dudes, like, I don't know what you're talking about.
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  • Unknown B
    Oh, so you're suggesting someone else wrote that? Yes.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah. I mean, if they get the car wrong.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, yeah, you right. I mean, that's a hell of a. That's a hell of a detail to get wrong here.
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  • Unknown A
    I had. My first car was a 1973 Chevelle, but I only had it for, like, two days. It broke down, and the guy sold me a lemon, and I got my money back. He came and got his car. I think he knew. He fucked me, you know? And then my next car after that was a 1968 Oldsmobile. So I remember. I know what my cars were like. You're a kid. You get your first car. You know what your first car was? Yeah, of course, bitch. If your first car was a 2007 Mustang, you're gonna. Everyone's gonna know. You're gonna tell everybody, right?
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. You're not gonna forget what your first car was.
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  • Unknown A
    You're gonna know. You're gonna. You're not gonna be confused. You're not gonna be confused as to what was your first car. You'll have. You'll pull it out right away.
    (0:26:50)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I mean, I've never seen anybody get that wrong.
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  • Unknown A
    Your car is, like, the first time you have freedom. You can't believe you could just drive anywhere you want. You go to your friend's house, you're like, dude, I can drive. It's one of the wildest experiences I remember clearly, just learning to drive and how wild it was. You could just drive. We're so used to it. We're basically riding around in amusement park rides. You would pay a lot of money to ride in, like, your Car. That Audi, bro, that's like you're in a. You're in a super capable sports sedan from 2024. So you're talking about like modern suspension and anti lock braking system and everything's controlled electronically. And you have a fucking super powerful engine. It's all taught.
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  • Unknown B
    And.
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  • Unknown A
    And it moves differently based on how the ground moves. Like whether it's shitty surface or smooth surface. They just adapt to everything. That thing's glued.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. It's crazy.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, those things are crazy. This. This world that we live in today is so fun. You would remember your first car.
    (0:28:01)
  • Unknown C
    I'm having a hard time. This is one of the strangest searches I've had.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown C
    I'll add this to conspiracy. I can't find anything that's coming up with a date before, like January 4th, which would only be a few days. Excuse me. A few days after I've done Google search and Twitter search. Twitter search didn't show anything. And I hit latest and still not show me anything recent.
    (0:28:14)
  • Unknown A
    Damn. Somebody wrote a whole article about how that was not his first car.
    (0:28:27)
  • Unknown C
    I know, but it's just weird that it's blocking this stuff. Look at the thing.
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  • Unknown A
    Can you try the Brave browser? How would that.
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  • Unknown C
    I don't know that it would have. I'm on a website.
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  • Unknown B
    What was that? Proof.
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  • Unknown C
    Which isn't giving me anything more recent than January 4th.
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  • Unknown A
    So when they say about discrepancies, does anybody use the car as a discrepancy? Because I definitely know. I read that.
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  • Unknown C
    No, that's not what I'm even bringing up. I'm sort of saying like, the search is being manipulated right now. Like, I can't search for this.
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  • Unknown A
    What?
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  • Unknown C
    That's what I'm trying to say.
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  • Unknown A
    Ew.
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  • Unknown C
    Like searching for his name and car, was it? I don't get anything in the last three weeks. That. That's weird. No one on Twitter is talking about it.
    (0:29:02)
  • Unknown A
    Let me imagine this. Is it possible that if there was a story like this and you were trying to like cover up discrepancies and you want people talking about it, could you just flood the search with a bunch of other stories on it? So it takes so many pages to get to it that you argue, yes.
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  • Unknown C
    You could, but that's. I'm not seeing that. I'm seeing the opposite. I'm seeing no stories other than like within the 48 hours of it happening. Which means that's. I find that odd.
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  • Unknown A
    That is weird.
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  • Unknown C
    Like, I'll go to page two, bro.
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  • Unknown B
    This is how checked out I am. I wouldn't even know this happened.
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  • Unknown C
    News isn't sure. It's like four weeks ago.
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  • Unknown A
    How about just write. Will you do me a favor and just write Matthew Levels Burger. How do you say it? Liversberger lives. Burger's car was not first car. Just say first car. But let me ask you just say first car was not a 2006 Ford Mustang.
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  • Unknown C
    That's too specific.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, that's too specific.
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  • Unknown A
    Let's just try. Was not first car was not a 2006 Ford Mustang.
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  • Unknown C
    I mean, it's. I'm getting the same thing. That's sort of what it's not the best way to do a search.
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  • Unknown A
    21 and over. Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction. Void. In Ontario, new customers only. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see DKNG co Audio. The other thing was that the gun that he used is a crazy gun. That is a crazy gun to shoot yourself in the car. And the question is, like, when did he do it? Because it looks like the guy in the video in the car sits there, pulls up, and then the whole thing blows up. So are you telling me that he's blowing himself up and shooting himself at the same time? Like, does he have a button on his left hand that's the bomb detonator and then the trigger on his right?
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  • Unknown B
    I don't know, man. That's just highly advanced.
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  • Unknown C
    I Get tweets from 2hours.
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  • Unknown B
    Cybertruck might have shot him. Shit.
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  • Unknown A
    So the game changer.
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  • Unknown C
    When I take off the word car from my search on Twitter, I Get tweets from 2 hours ago, so they're.
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  • Unknown A
    Still tweeting like crazy.
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  • Unknown C
    But when I type in car, now It's.
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  • Unknown A
    You get January 16th.
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  • Unknown C
    Yeah, I'm on latest.
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  • Unknown A
    That's weird. You typed first car.
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  • Unknown C
    I didn't. I just typed in the word car. I would. I should matter.
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  • Unknown A
    Show me the whole try, try first car.
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  • Unknown B
    I already.
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  • Unknown C
    I'm just.
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  • Unknown A
    I already. I know.
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  • Unknown C
    I. I know I reduced it so that it was less specific, but what's.
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  • Unknown B
    The rest of the conspiracy?
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  • Unknown A
    Incorrect after the first car discrepancies. Right click on that show more so including incorrect reference for the first car Livesberger owned. According to public records, his first car was not a 2006 Ford, contrary to what is mentioned in the email. This has led to skepticism on whether the email is real or fabricated. That's it.
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  • Unknown B
    So where's the court?
    (0:32:58)
  • Unknown A
    In a public records. That was not his first car.
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  • Unknown B
    But show us the public records.
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  • Unknown A
    Let's see. It was a BMW 2008. One series BMW. I would add.
    (0:33:05)
  • Unknown C
    Wouldn't this just be registered under his name? Maybe he borrowed one. Maybe his parents registered it. I think they checked his parents cars too.
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  • Unknown B
    What about that? 1998 is a full Mustang, but it's 2006.
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  • Unknown C
    There's a big difference.
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  • Unknown A
    See right here. Why is Sean Ryan spreading an easily confirmed fake email? If your first car was a 1998 Mustang, would you say your first car was a 2007 Mustang? The dates don't even line up. So. So he had a 98 Ford Mustang. Why is the BMW circled?
    (0:33:24)
  • Unknown B
    Because you see, the thing is, whenever weird shit happened, the first people to talk be full of shit. They the worst people.
    (0:33:40)
  • Unknown A
    So it looks like he didn't have. He had. Scroll down. Back again. So he had a 98 Mustang, not a 2007. That was his first car. Then he had a 2008 BMW and then he had a Jeep. He Never had a 2006 Mustang.
    (0:33:46)
  • Unknown B
    You can see right where he got divorced because he got a Mustang again.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah. I'm back, baby.
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  • Unknown B
    2018.
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  • Unknown A
    2018. He got a Ford Mustang GT.
    (0:34:09)
  • Unknown B
    That's that midlife crisis.
    (0:34:11)
  • Unknown A
    He got the GT too. Greg Fitzsimmons got it. He got it with the EcoBoost. He was telling me how much he loves it. I know, but you didn't get the V8. He's like, oh, gas mileage. I'm like, shut your mouth.
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  • Unknown B
    What you mean ecoboost?
    (0:34:23)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, It's a great engine. Don't get me wrong. It's got plenty of power in comparison to old cars. It's way more powerful. I mean it's a fast fucking car. But the EcoBoost is just more fuel efficient. It doesn't have the same horsepower. And the GT has the Coyote V8 that has that rumble. Makes you feel alive. You know when you, you ever been at a red light with a guy in a Mustang and they take off and you hear that sound, Especially if he's got a manual.
    (0:34:24)
  • Unknown B
    My homie when I was in the service, he had this, he had this fucking blue Corvette. I forget what year it was, but it was older. But he, he was obsessed with this motherfucking car. And it was so, so loud. Yeah, it was definitely like a 70 something, you know what I mean? It was like an old.
    (0:34:55)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, the cool ones, yeah.
    (0:35:12)
  • Unknown B
    But it was like no modern technology in this motherfucker. It was loud as shit.
    (0:35:13)
  • Unknown A
    Corvettes are the only cars that looked good into the 70s. All the other American cars turned to dog shit. They turned it, they became boxes, they became fuel efficient boxes. But Corvettes always had that. And then eventually they fucked that up too. And they made Corvettes like flat and looked like a wedge. They look so stupid for a while. But now they're back. Now they're better, they're better looking now I think like Tony's. I think that These new ones, the 2025s and 26s, they're better than any other car ever. Any American car. Like the Corvette ZR1. It's greatest American car that's ever been built.
    (0:35:17)
  • Unknown B
    Really sound.
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  • Unknown A
    It's 1100 horsepower.
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  • Unknown B
    I don't know shit about it.
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  • Unknown A
    Oh, Brian Simpson. You ready to look at this?
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  • Unknown B
    You got one?
    (0:35:57)
  • Unknown A
    No, no, no, I don't have one, but this is. Google this. This is literally the greatest American car ever produced by a long shot. Z1, ZR1. It's got a giant wing on the back of it. It's literally a race car that you can buy. It has 1100 horsepower or excuse me, 1064 horsepower. And this is not even tuned right. Guys are going to be able to do things with these things. You're going to get these Hennessy guys.
    (0:35:58)
  • Unknown B
    Is this new?
    (0:36:25)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. You're going to get these Hennessy guys that are going to like jack up the boost and make them even faster. These things are insanely fast. Insanely fast and insanely capable. I don't know if they've got nurburgring times on them, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the fastest American car ever.
    (0:36:26)
  • Unknown B
    How much does that cost?
    (0:36:43)
  • Unknown A
    I think it's like $190,000, bro. This car is insane. It has carbon fiber wheels. It's insane, and it's beautiful. Like, look at that thing. I mean, it's just a piece of art and engineering, you know, together. It's really. It looks like what you'd expect from a foreign supercar from, like Ferrari or McLaren or something like that. That's what it looks like. It looks incredible. I don't know how we get on the subject.
    (0:36:44)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, we were talking about how you remember your. You would remember.
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  • Unknown A
    Oh, you remember your first car. Fuck. Imagine your first car is this thing. Your first car should be a Miata. Someone should. Everybody should drive a stick shift Miata, but you can't.
    (0:37:19)
  • Unknown B
    Your. Because like. Like, some people get crazy. They buy their kids shit like that.
    (0:37:30)
  • Unknown A
    Well, you know, it's like motorcycles, you know, I was gonna get a motorcycle license at one point in time, and one of my buddies was gonna get it like a ninja. I was like, bro, we shouldn't do that. We shouldn't just hop right on some crazy bike that you gotta get comfortable with the whole deal. Riding a bike.
    (0:37:34)
  • Unknown B
    Bro, if I told you how many of my. How many of my friends or family that I've had to talk out of getting a motorcycle, like. Like, it's like that midlife crisis part where it's like, hey, bro, you never rode a motorcycle like, you 40, you can't start now.
    (0:37:49)
  • Unknown A
    I got real close, and then the universe gave me a whole bunch of.
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  • Unknown B
    Signs, bro, because even. The. Even the best riders in the world will lay that bike down.
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  • Unknown A
    Yep.
    (0:38:11)
  • Unknown B
    So it's like, you out here, you haven't ridden a bike ever or. Or in 25 years. Like, you gonna get up out there.
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  • Unknown A
    You ever see the one when the dude is flying down a country road, he hits a deer?
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  • Unknown B
    No.
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  • Unknown A
    Oh, this dude is, like, on one of those race, boom, flying through the air.
    (0:38:23)
  • Unknown B
    Bro. I saw one the other day where it was the other way around. It was like. It was like the end of a parade or something. And there were girls in the street and this guy. A bunch of motorcycles went by, but only one girl got hit.
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  • Unknown A
    Oh, God. But it was like, oh, God.
    (0:38:43)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, man. That's.
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  • Unknown A
    Vehicles.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but you can't. You can't.
    (0:38:51)
  • Unknown A
    So you didn't see this thing today. A Blackhawk helicopter collided with a American Airlines flight. Flight.
    (0:38:52)
  • Unknown B
    Oh.
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  • Unknown A
    Over D.C. yeah. Over D.C. over D.C. yeah. And they plunged into the Potomac and Everybody's dead. And there's video of it. There's a fireball in the sky. The helicopter collides right with the plane. Explodes in the sky. Watch this boom. They explode and collide in the sky and then this is the plane. Oh man. It's crazy. And it's only. I mean it's not. There's nothing fortunate about it, but it's fortunate that it landed in the river and then it didn't land on apartment buildings, you know, and kill a bunch more people. I don't even know how that happens. I've never heard of something like that happening. It's. And then where did the helicopter emanate from? Where did it come from? James? Jamie. Probably Andrews, because this is a military helicopter.
    (0:39:01)
  • Unknown B
    Andrew's Air Force base. I'm guessing.
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  • Unknown A
    I don't understand how that's possible. I don't get it. But I don't know anything about flying, man.
    (0:40:01)
  • Unknown B
    You know what? Honestly man, it comes close to happening a lot.
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  • Unknown A
    That's so crazy that a military helicopter collides with a American Airlines jet.
    (0:40:11)
  • Unknown B
    And this. And I, I don't think it was some kind of malfunction. It probably was bad communication. Somebody got wrong information.
    (0:40:21)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, maybe. Unless we find out that someone was on that jet. Like someone who's important was on gravity drive. Scientist, some fucking dude is at the forefront of quantum computing. He's got a laptop with him that he's trying to deliver to somebody in Saudi Arabia.
    (0:40:27)
  • Unknown B
    This is why I checked out, bro. Cause it's so hard to tell. Take everything serious. Because it's like we live in such a ridiculous time with that. Like that. That is the chances are more than zero that what you said is the case just now.
    (0:40:45)
  • Unknown A
    Right? More than zero.
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  • Unknown B
    It's like we live in a ridiculous. We don't trust anything.
    (0:41:01)
  • Unknown A
    Right?
    (0:41:05)
  • Unknown B
    I don't. So it's like that could have. That could be somebody. Because my next thought shouldn't be, I wonder if somebody important was on that jet.
    (0:41:05)
  • Unknown A
    The other thought was that you can control those helicopters remotely. You don't have to have pilots.
    (0:41:12)
  • Unknown B
    Bullshit.
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  • Unknown A
    You can.
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  • Unknown B
    You can fly a helicopter remotely.
    (0:41:23)
  • Unknown A
    Yes, they, they use artificial intelligence now. Not just to fly helicopters, but also to fly jets. And when they use jets that are controlled by artificial intelligence versus jets that are controlled by the best pilots we have, the jets can control by artificial intelligence. Win dogfights 100% of the time.
    (0:41:24)
  • Unknown B
    Time, yeah, but they gonna up. I mean, listen, cuz, all I have to judge this is.
    (0:41:44)
  • Unknown A
    This is the tinfoil we're putting on Some tinfoil.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but all I have to judge my artificial intelligence is the Google Gemini and chat gbt and they be up. Yeah, but this is consumer grade.
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  • Unknown A
    This is consumer grade. That didn't exist a while ago. And you want some coffee?
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  • Unknown B
    No, I'm good.
    (0:42:06)
  • Unknown A
    And exists now. So here it is. Blackhawk remote controlled demos have been performed by Sikorski aircraft and Lockheed Martin to demonstrate ability to remotely control a Blackhawk helicopter. These demos have shown the potential for autonomous flight and the ability to perform missions without a pilot.
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  • Unknown B
    Okay, but here's the other thing though.
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  • Unknown A
    But this is the thing. If it's such a super sophisticated piece of equipment, how is it not if it is being piloted by a person, how do they not have sensors that detect where the planes are? How is that even possible? That you could be in a place where planes are flying 500 miles an hour, left and right, all over the place, landing and taking off, and you're going to fly through that and you don't know where the planes are? That seems insane. That doesn't even seem possible because like, how could you exist as a military aircraft if you don't have a comprehensive analysis of everything that's around you all the time? We have sensors. We put them on jets. Why wouldn't we put sensors on the helicopter?
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  • Unknown B
    They probably do have.
    (0:43:07)
  • Unknown A
    So why didn't it work?
    (0:43:08)
  • Unknown B
    We'll find out pretty soon.
    (0:43:10)
  • Unknown A
    Will we even know? But everybody's dead, right? So how do you know when everybody's dead? They think the pilots are dead. Of the helicopter? I believe there was. Was there supposed to be two people in the helicopter? Four, three. Three people in the helicopter. And was it like 60 or 70 people? 60 people in the plane are dead.
    (0:43:11)
  • Unknown B
    Only 60 people on a flight? On the flight.
    (0:43:30)
  • Unknown A
    Small flight.
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  • Unknown C
    It was mostly a figure skating team. Figure skating?
    (0:43:33)
  • Unknown A
    Fuck, man.
    (0:43:37)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, yeah. Cause that's the thing. I was like, it would have to be a group of people because if they just wanted to take out one person, why waste a helicopter? Like there's better ways to kill one person.
    (0:43:38)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, well, also, you want like the worst press possible. Kill a plane filled with young figure skaters. The sweetest, most delicate people, like twirling around on the ice. I mean, we think of them like they're almost like superhumans, you know? We don't even want to think about. That's why I like, when that Tonya Harding, Nancy Kerrigan shit went down, nobody wanted to believe it's possible. The figure skating communities got thugs, remember that?
    (0:43:48)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
    (0:44:15)
  • Unknown A
    The figure skating community tries to take out people by breaking their knees.
    (0:44:16)
  • Unknown B
    And that shit was ripe for comedy for, like, five years. Yeah, yeah. People get vicious about shit, man. People get vicious and. But here's the other thing. I. It might just be incompetence.
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  • Unknown A
    Most likely it's incompetence.
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  • Unknown B
    Somebody was just fucked up.
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  • Unknown A
    Most likely someone made a mistake, most likely. But in this day and age, when you know about things that have happened, you know about false flags, you know about all kinds of shit that happens, you always got to wonder, and if. If we do find out, here's worst case scenario. What if a foreign government has figured out a way to hack in to our equipment and they can get a helicopter to fly right into a plane?
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  • Unknown B
    Oh, like this was a test run.
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  • Unknown A
    What if this is, like, proof of concept?
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  • Unknown B
    See, I think a better conspiracy would be if we found out that it was like that. Like, Delta was behind it. You know what I mean?
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  • Unknown A
    Delta try to take out American oils.
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  • Unknown B
    Like, Alaska was like, yo, we gonna fucking ruin their reputation.
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  • Unknown A
    But if you were a foreign country and you wanted to demonstrate that you have technical superiority over people, how would you do it? Well, first of all, you'd lay the groundwork, right? This is one thing they definitely did, right. Where's that lighter, bro? Thank you, sir. You lay the groundwork. And the groundwork is sell them all the shit they need. Sell them all the shit they need. And some of the shit you sell them put a back door in there. Put a little back door in there. And they've been doing that. That's a fact. That's why Huawei was banned from the United States. They banned Huawei phones. They were the most sophisticated phones. They were coming out of China. It was so good.
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  • Unknown B
    They was.
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  • Unknown A
    I've talked this before. Forgive me if you heard it before, but I tried to buy a Porsche design Huawei phone. It was an amazing phone. It was, like, so much more advanced than iPhones. It had a bigger battery, like 100 megapixel camera. And then right before it was coming out, they put the ban. And then there's all these national security concerns, and Huawei is, like, spying on Americans. And something about their routers and their systems they figured out there's, like, backdoor possibilities that were engineered into these things. So they sold us cell phone towers and computer chips and all this stuff and all the components that you need to run your AI. So wouldn't it make sense that if they're a part of it, they're integrated into it physically? And we know they've put back doors on things Wouldn't you put back doors on the stuff that you're putting into jets?
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  • Unknown A
    Wouldn't you pack? It's like who's making that stuff? Who's making all those electronics that are inside the jets?
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  • Unknown B
    I think we make those.
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  • Unknown A
    Do you think we make the chips? Do you think we make the chips? Do you think, do you think we make. What do we make? Do we make the hard drives? Are you sure? I don't know.
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  • Unknown B
    I don't know.
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  • Unknown A
    Do we make the processors?
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  • Unknown B
    It just seems like, do we. Smart thing to do.
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  • Unknown A
    It would be a very smart thing to do. But do we make the swap? Does. Do we make the processors or have there been installed some sort of electronical back door into almost everything that we have. Have almost everything we have. Anything could be taken over.
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  • Unknown B
    I think that it probably is the case, but it's definitely our government doing it.
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  • Unknown A
    You know the Michael Hastings story, right?
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  • Unknown B
    No.
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  • Unknown A
    You don't know that story? Oh, this was the guy who was a journalist who was writing for Rolling Stone and he goes over to Afghanistan, was it Afghanistan? Goes over to Afghanistan and gets stuck there because of the volcano. So the volcano in Iceland, I think. So this volcano blows up and the sky is covered with dirt you can't see for like weeks. So you can't fly. So he can't leave there, so he gets stuck with his troop. He's embedded with these troops and they get loose. They get loose, they start saying things, they start talking shit about Obama. The general talks shit about Obama and then this guy puts all this in the store and he puts all this in this. And they thought he was like one of their homies. We're just hanging out, we're just boys. He's not going to write about that.
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  • Unknown A
    Meanwhile I got wrote about all that shit. You get these 20 year old kids, they're deployed at war and of course they're going to talk shit. They're kids. You get the generals like hanging out with these guys, they're going to talk shit. They're a bunch of men out there doing war. So he has to step down and he, the general is one of the most beloved generals in the military. And then this guy is terrified for his life and his opening reporter, the reporter's terrified for his life because he's been threatened to do so. Then he dies on. Was it Laurel Canyon? La Brea. He dies on La Brea going oh, Melrose in Highland.
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  • Unknown C
    I'm watching the video right now, but.
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  • Unknown A
    That'S either way, either way. Point is he's in La he's going like 120 miles an hour and he goes straight into a tree. And the car explodes. The car explodes and watch how fast he goes. Look at this. He just hits the gas and boom. Runs into a tree and explodes. Had said, you know, if anything happens, I didn't kill myself. And then the question was back then. So was this 2005, 2013. So back then, the question was, do they have the technology to take over vehicles? And if you ask people that are honest, the answer is, yes, they do. There's a way to do it. It's not impossible. It's not like, you know, breathing underwater. It can be done. Whether you have to get access to the actual car itself and put something in there, I don't know. But that's why it can be done.
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  • Unknown B
    That's why about people. Like, it's gonna be a couple generations before people will be down with it being fully autonomous cars. Like, you know, we see all these driverless cars around this motherfucker all the time, but it's like, I ain't getting one of them motherfuckers.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, get the fuck outta here.
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  • Unknown B
    No way. But. Cause if they wanted to kill you, I mean, we saw that in the old. The new Total Recall, they did that where it's like all the cars drive themselves, but when they wanna find you, they fucking stop your car, pull you over. You know, fuck that.
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  • Unknown A
    Everybody's terrified about that, you know. And there's cars right now that they could shut off if there's a police chase. That's what OnStar does, right? So, like, if you're in one of those Corvettes, I bet that Corvette has OnStar, does that Corvette of OnStar. So the. What the. The way they sell you OnStar is they say, well, Brian, if someone steals your car, we can just shut it off. And you're like, oh, that would be good. I don't want anybody stealing my beautiful car. But the other side of that is we could also just shut it off for other reasons, right? We can shut it off because we don't like you and we just decided to shut your car.
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  • Unknown B
    Don't worry, it says right here that that's illegal.
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  • Unknown A
    You could have the wrong political opinion depending on who's in power. You know, you want to give these people power because you don't want the other side to win. But then the problem is now you've established that the government, which is not always you, is going to have power and they're going to just be able to shut your fucking car. Off stolen C7 Corvette disabled remotely by police using OnStar. Yeah, they shut them off. See, that's a. That's a happy moment. Look at that. The. The sad moment is you got a trunk load of meth and you're making a run for it. They just shut your car off.
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  • Unknown B
    Right? But imagine. Imagine being a drug runner and getting all the features.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, the drug runners always get caught going too fast. It's the dumbest fucking thing you'll ever hear. They always get busted going like 16 miles an hour over the speed limit. What does it say, Jamie? Mandatory comes with mandatory OnStar subscription. There's no way around it.
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  • Unknown B
    One of my favorite online lawyers, he always goes. His name was Bruce Rivers, but he always saying, never commit a misdemeanor while you committing a felony. You know, it's like, if you're moving cocaine, don't break the speed limit. Put on your seatbelt.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, it's just the dumbest. But you get these kids that are willing to do these drug runs and they're cocky and they're probably using, right? So they're probably taking a little amphetamines while they're driving to stay sharp. Brian can't get sleepy behind the wheel. And they're probably not the most reliable people anyway. They're literal drug runners. Like, what they're doing could get them locked up for the rest of their fucking life. And they're probably gonna make $2,000 for doing this.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. And I have some cool stories.
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  • Unknown A
    I mean, who's gonna make the money? They're probably doing it for somebody else, right? They're probably moving it for somebody and they have to sell it and they get a piece and then, you know, and then they keep doing it. And that's. That's. They just have to hope they don't get arrested. And then they do it a few times, get a little cocky. I mean, someone's bringing all this shit in. Like, how's it getting in how many car. If you're a cop and you're just out there looking around all. How many of these moving trucks have fentanyl in them?
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  • Unknown B
    I think the CIA brings. Bringing most of it.
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  • Unknown A
    A bit. A bit of it.
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  • Unknown B
    I mean, for sure. Because who stops selling drugs when they get away with it? Nobody.
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  • Unknown A
    Right?
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  • Unknown B
    Why would they stop doing that?
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  • Unknown A
    Right.
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  • Unknown B
    They just. Now they just know how to not get caught.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, may they probably work with people.
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  • Unknown B
    Because please believe if we really, really wanted to stop drugs, it would be extreme. But we could, but we don't want to.
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  • Unknown A
    It would be Too hard, you'd have to take away too much freedom from people. They wouldn't stand for it and they'd vote yaddle.
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  • Unknown B
    Just stop it from coming into country.
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  • Unknown A
    Yes, you could stop it from coming to the country, but you're not going to stop a demand. The real problem is just like the prohibition of alcohol. And I'm not comparing meth with alcohol because I think most people, most people that I know responsibly use alcohol. They take a few drinks. I mean, I know a bunch of people who have abused it. I know a bunch of people had to stop drinking. But most guys that we're friends with, you have a drink. You guys want to do a shot, let's do a shot. And then you go do your show. And no one's getting drunk every night.
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  • Unknown B
    Right.
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  • Unknown A
    You know what I mean?
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  • Unknown B
    I rarely see anybody drunk.
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  • Unknown A
    But if you're out there doing meth, there's a chance you're not engaging in, like, responsible meth use. There's a good chance if you're using meth, you're going hard.
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  • Unknown B
    You're just micro dosing.
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  • Unknown A
    You're just going, nah, no one ain't, Mario. They're going hard. I think meth gets you to go hard. You're listening to fucking Slayer in your car and you're fired up and you're making bad decisions.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I mean, you definitely just not thinking, you're just doing.
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  • Unknown A
    But what is Adderall? Adderall's super close to meth. Super close.
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  • Unknown B
    It's the. It's an amphetamine for sure.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, it's not the same, but it's.
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  • Unknown B
    And yeah, you get.
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  • Unknown A
    It's in the hunt.
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  • Unknown B
    People do wild on that too.
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  • Unknown A
    Especially if you take a lot of it. If you take a lot of it, it might as well be meth. And people abuse the. Out of everything you tell them to take one, they're gonna take five or six.
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  • Unknown B
    I think the biggest problem is, like, most people's lives, Lives suck so bad that, like, drugs is their only thing.
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  • Unknown A
    That's true, too.
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  • Unknown B
    That's true too, because that's. That's happy, that's instant happiness. It's like, that's true even when you. Because you know what's so funny is I think a lot of people assume that, that most of the, like homeless people on the street are homeless because they got a drug, they had a drug problem. But it's usually the other way around. They usually are fine when they hit the street and they. They start using drugs because, like, what else the you gonna do where? What else you gonna get happiness from? You're not. You're not warm. You're not safe.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, there's probably a bunch of different scenarios there, but a lot of it has to do with drug use and a lot of it has to do with self medicating. A lot of those people are just like severely mentally ill and really should be in some sort of an institution.
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  • Unknown B
    People are never gonna stop getting high.
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  • Unknown A
    No, they're not going to. This is.
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  • Unknown B
    I'm smoking a cigar right now and I. And I don't know if I don't know what the. I don't know what the solution is, is. Oh, just legalize everything.
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  • Unknown A
    I don't know that I would have.
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  • Unknown B
    Said that five years ago, but. And maybe that is the ultimate solution, but. But the way it's implemented, because I think they, they tried that in Seattle or Portland or something. Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    They had to stop it.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. And so it's like. But they also just went from what we doing now to like just everything's legal. Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah. But they also. It's Portland. They're ridiculous. Those people are ridiculous. That was Seattle, right? No, was it Portland or Seattle? Which one was it? That. It was Oregon. That legalized everything, right?
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I think you're right. I think it was Oregon.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, it was Oregon. So it was Portland. Portland's ridiculous. They're ridiculous. So if you just say you can just do drugs wherever you want, just do whatever you want, everything's legal now. Everyone's just gonna be brazen about it. You've got a culture that was, it was demonized for so long. And you have a culture of mental illness where people are looking for something to get them out of this rut that they're in. And the only thing that makes them feel good is fentanyl or oxycodone or whatever the fuck they're taking, whatever that shit that makes you lean over. What's that stuff?
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  • Unknown B
    It's a lot of shit to do that.
    (0:56:53)
  • Unknown A
    The stuff that they're doing. Yoga, street tranq, whatever the fuck they're doing. These people, they're trying to escape, right. And the idea that you just like leave them. They're obviously like severely mentally ill. Like, if we spend money on people with illness, why don't we spend money on people with mental illness? It seems like if you want to support Medicaid, shouldn't you support like mass medical assistance to most of these people? Because a lot of them are probably severely mentally ill and unmedicated and maybe they can Be helped. Maybe someone can take them into an institution.
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  • Unknown B
    Is somebody calling you a socialist right now in the comments?
    (0:57:31)
  • Unknown A
    I am in a lot of ways. I am with some things like the fire department. I think the fire department is a very socialist idea. We're all going to put our money into this one group of people that's going to act in the best interest of the entire community and put out fires everywhere, regardless of who's got money or doesn't. If you're a poor person and you live on this block and your house catches on fire, they don't say, we're not going to put that fire out. We're only going to put the big guy's fire out. No, the fucking house gets on fire. Everybody agrees that fire needs to get put out. So the fire people move. You spend your tax dollars on it.
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  • Unknown B
    See, that's how I feel about health care.
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  • Unknown A
    That's. It's. It's true. That's a good way to look at it.
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  • Unknown B
    It's like imagine the fire department could deny you when your house was burning.
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  • Unknown A
    See, the problem is they're already making so much money doing it the way they're doing it now. And they've got a really good system. If I was a business person involved in that system, not just a human being with ethics and morals, I would say this is the way to do it, because this is the way we're going to make the most money. Yeah. But. But people are tired of it. That's why people were cheering when that guy got shot, which is kind of fucked up.
    (0:58:13)
  • Unknown B
    Here's the truth of the matter. Matter. Some shit just can't be for profit if we want it to be for the best. Some stuff can't be for profit.
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  • Unknown A
    The thing about that guy shooting that person, that's the most disturbing wasn't just that everybody. That a lot of people cheered for it. But was the most disturbing was that people weren't mad, they weren't outraged. They didn't treat it like a regular assassination. It was like an assassination where he deserved it. Right. It didn't seem like a bad. Even even though people like that was horrible. It didn't seem like as bad a thing as like if someone shot John Lennon.
    (0:58:43)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    You know what I mean? Or not even a famous person. If someone just randomly shot some executive as he was walking out.
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  • Unknown B
    You know how I reacted the same way when they got Osama bin Laden. I was like, it's the same to me.
    (0:59:15)
  • Unknown A
    Really?
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. Cause think about that.
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  • Unknown A
    You feel like that insurance guy was Osama Bin Laden?
    (0:59:23)
  • Unknown B
    No, but I mean they both, they both are indirectly responsible for the deaths of how many Americans? Except he was doing it for profit. Osama was doing it for the love of the game or whatever.
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  • Unknown A
    I do think it's a corporate capture issue because I think the culture of the corporation is to make as much money as possible and deny more people than the other insurance companies do. Like they had a higher rate of denying.
    (0:59:38)
  • Unknown B
    You can't let people's grandmas die and let them stay in pain and shit and then expect them to have empathy for you.
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  • Unknown A
    Did you ever see that one video I think we played on the podcast where this woman talked about how she made a decision to deny someone care that they definitely needed and she was thanked by the company and then the guy wound up dying and she knows that she could have given him the life saving care, she could have approved it and she was rewarded for not approving it. Like they were like, you did the right thing. So that's like the culture is not about. See like what we were talking about earlier, it's not really about health care. Healthcare is the arena in which they're playing their game. But the real game is the people behind the scenes that are trying to make money. And especially if you're doing something that is not. You don't have a lot of me. It doesn't give you a lot of meaning to deny people healthcare.
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  • Unknown A
    It doesn't give you a lot of meaning. Like you don't feel like you have a meaningful life. So those people guarantee you they get addicted to material stuff. They get addicted to getting a nice Rolex. I want to get the newest Rolex. I want to get a fucking Ferrari. I want, I want to.
    (1:00:41)
  • Unknown B
    And you also gotta like it. Gotta switch up your whole ethic.
    (1:00:57)
  • Unknown A
    Yep, yep. And you gotta somehow or another placate yourself whether it's with drugs or with buying a new purse, something you need new stuff. You're not gonna live in a fucking log hut in the woods if you're living like that. You're not gonna be interested in starting your own fire and reading books by candlelight. Shut the fuck up. You're doing cocaine and you're trying to.
    (1:01:01)
  • Unknown B
    Buy a house and you're surrounded by people that, but like they're impressed by the shit you're doing too.
    (1:01:21)
  • Unknown A
    And they probably all medicated. Everybody's on probably something that's like, allows them to like not freak out all the time. Some sort of anti anxiety medication because of what they're doing. And then they don't feel fulfilled in life, you know, you don't feel like that's a good relationship between you and the way you make money and the way you interact with people?
    (1:01:27)
  • Unknown B
    No, I don't think they feel guilty. I mean, some people might feel guilty afterwards.
    (1:01:49)
  • Unknown A
    I think they're medicated. I bet. Yeah, I bet if you're in. I bet you have anxiety when you're doing stuff like that. You probably need an ssri. Probably need a little something.
    (1:01:53)
  • Unknown B
    But it's like the easiest person to lie to is yourself. So it's like you probably feel like you get that first paycheck and you go. You start twisting so you could justify it, like, well, you know, somebody would do this.
    (1:02:02)
  • Unknown A
    And you also realize, hey, the rest of the public, they don't know. They don't know. That's just the insurance business. That's the business.
    (1:02:12)
  • Unknown B
    This is standard standards, a word they use a lot when they try to fuck you.
    (1:02:20)
  • Unknown A
    People looked at it very differently than someone just shooting some other person. They almost looked at it like he deserved it.
    (1:02:24)
  • Unknown B
    And it wasn't bipartisan. That's what I mean. That was the wildest thing about the whole thing. It was like you couldn't tell by any other information from anybody how they felt about it. I just felt nothing.
    (1:02:30)
  • Unknown A
    It was weird, too, because it gave a lot of liberal grifters the opportunity to celebrate someone getting shot and murdered violently, which is, like. Should be the complete opposite of the way they view violent crime. They should think of violence as being the last resort. Violence is abhorrent. Violence is not a part of a civilized society. We want kindness and compassion and want people to be able to live their life. You don't want violent murders on the street if you are a progressive, but a lot of progressives were cheering when this guy got murdered. It just shows how many grifters and.
    (1:02:42)
  • Unknown B
    Hypocrites there are, because for me, it just depends on who got murdered. I'm not rooting for a murderer, but certain people die. I'm like, well, you know.
    (1:03:22)
  • Unknown A
    Well, I don't even know what this guy's relationship to that guy was. I don't know why he wanted to kill him specifically.
    (1:03:32)
  • Unknown B
    I haven't said specifically. I mean, there's a lot of speculation about was it a family member or like, he'd had a back surgery that screwed him up. And. But like I said, I only. I only get the news that, like, rises. That's, like, forced in my face, because I don't. I don't watch any of the.
    (1:03:40)
  • Unknown A
    To me, it's it's different than, like, let's say some Iraq war veteran assassinated Dick Cheney. Cheney. Like, that, to me, makes more sense. That one makes more sense. Here's a guy who knows that this guy engineered this thing where they lied about weapons of mass destruction, led us into a war that ultimately wind up killing who knows how many people.
    (1:03:55)
  • Unknown B
    But I think people. I think Dick Cheney would have got a better reaction than this guy.
    (1:04:22)
  • Unknown A
    You think people would have been sad that Dick Cheney got shot? Well, they would have thought it's very dangerous whenever a vice president gets shot. Everybody feels vulnerable.
    (1:04:28)
  • Unknown B
    That's. That's something that you can. You can partisanize. Partisanize a word. I think it's something you can. You can. You can make partisan, but with. But like I said, that's what's special. That's what's special. That's what's special about this, is everybody got over by. Everybody got over. Like, so, like, there's people that love Dick Cheney or there's people that still hold, like, those politics from back then.
    (1:04:36)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know if anybody loved Dick Cheney. That's why it was really crazy when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala. And they were all like, yeah, like, what are you talking. What, that guy?
    (1:04:53)
  • Unknown B
    What, you forgot? Yeah, but I just mean, I don't think people. I don't think he is as hated as. I mean, the truth is, nobody. I didn't even. Nobody knew that CEO's name before this. But the whole business is hated. So it's like he became the face of that. And it's. It's definitely apolitical. It's like. Like, I don't know a single. I don't know a single person that hasn't had an issue with health insurance.
    (1:05:01)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, well, again, it's a business. It's a business designed to make money. And all of them want to meet. They have an obligation. They need to make more money next quarter. What can we do? What can we do? They start denying people. And if you're using AI, like, specifically to deny people, like. Like, let's make this more efficient.
    (1:05:29)
  • Unknown B
    Is that's what's happening now?
    (1:05:49)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know if that's true, but I've read it. I've read it that some insurance companies are using AI to deny more claims than ever. See, if that's true, I wouldn't be shocked. Would you be shocked if you're a company and you're trying to make the most money and you find out that there's software that allows you to make more money and all you care about is making money. You're not really caring about health care. You don't want people to feel. If you did, you say we should all make less money and give out more money to these people. We could accept more claims and we would have a much healthier world and we would feel better karmically. Right. Wouldn't that be nice if they thought like that? You'd have to own the company. You'd have to be like a guru. Like a really calm, peaceful guru.
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  • Unknown A
    And you would own the company and just have, like an ethical insurance company and not give anybody stake in it. Don't let anybody, like, try to juice the system because they want to make more money.
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  • Unknown B
    Oh, like, not like not a public company.
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  • Unknown A
    Exactly. Stay private. Stay private.
    (1:06:41)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but don't you think the type of person. Stay Golden Pony Boy insurance company, any. Like. I think you would have to be a certain type. This.
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  • Unknown A
    Right.
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  • Unknown B
    Type.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah. You have to be a psych.
    (1:06:50)
  • Unknown B
    I should profit from suffering somehow.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah, I should. Well, you're gambling, right? You're gambling that something doesn't happen to you that's more expensive than all the payments you give me every month for 10 years.
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  • Unknown B
    Because I think if you. If you start heading in that direction of, like, ethical health care, eventually you're gonna arrive at, oh, there shouldn't be health insurance. It should just cost what it costs.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, it should probably be the same way we treat the fire department. But if we're going to do that and people say, what about all these people that are obese? What about all these people that are, like, eating bad food? Yeah, we got to educate our society. We have to think of ourselves as a community, as a collective community, educate ourselves. And health care should be something that's paid for by the government. Insurance companies use artificial intelligence to automatically deny claims, which you can raise concerns about bias and inaccuracies. Which can raise concerns about bias. Bias and inaccuracies. If your claim is denied by AI you can take steps to understand your rights and challenge the denial. Keep records. Document all correspondence with your insurer, including denial letters, and any communication about AI Lawyer can help you understand your rights and determine if the denial was made in bad faith.
    (1:07:10)
  • Unknown A
    Like, yeah, for most people, especially people that work all day and you're dealing with this. You're.
    (1:07:57)
  • Unknown C
    They made. I think this is in California.
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  • Unknown A
    Landmark law prohibits health insurance companies from using AI to deny health care coverage. All right, that's great. Especially like, using it specifically to deny. So that's California. That's great law. The Whole country should adopt that.
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  • Unknown B
    Using AI to deny.
    (1:08:18)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, I really think that the problem is that there's been a long history of profit for health care and that they go into it to profit. And the real problem with that is you want. But you also want the best surgeons, right? You want the best doctors. And they have to be motivated. And most of them are motivated both by excelling in their practice and also by material possessions that reward them. Like doctors always have, like a Porsche. Doctors have a Mercedes. Doctors have a nice house. Like, you should be a doctor, Brian. You should be a doctor. A nice doctor. Doctors make a lot of money, but they also have a fuckload of bills and they have a fuckload of insurance. Okay, so they have. The problem with them is like liability insurance. Like liability insurance for malpractice insurance for doctors is crazy expensive.
    (1:08:19)
  • Unknown B
    But don't doctors still make good money in countries?
    (1:09:11)
  • Unknown A
    They do, but they're, they're constantly moving people in and out of their office because they got a fucking heavy nut to cover every month. Yes. UnitedHealth is facing multiple class action lawsuits over its use of algorithms. Algorithms. Its investment practices and its treatment of patients. Algorithm use, claim processing. UnitedHealth is facing a class action lawsuit over the algorithm it uses to process claims. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Monsters, monsters. But this is also because we've set up a system of profit. Now imagine if that system of profit existed for the fire department. Imagine if you had to pay fire department fees every month and if you didn't and your house burned, they go, hey, Brian, we just checked and you don't have fire cover. And so then now you're fucked. That sounds.
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  • Unknown B
    Can't get us crazy.
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  • Unknown A
    That's crazy, right?
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    I mean, so we agree that the fire department should be kind of a socialist organization.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    Okay, why not Healthcare?
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, that's how I feel.
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  • Unknown A
    But then the problem is, you know, Dr. Fucking Grossman, he wants, wants a Ferrari. The baddest for fixing knees. He fixes everybody's knees on the Lakers. He wants some money.
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  • Unknown B
    Give him a Ferrari.
    (1:10:23)
  • Unknown A
    He's the best. Yeah, but the problem with that is like how do you pay? How do you, like how much does everybody get paid? Does the government just pay everybody the same way they're getting paid now? Or does it become like a government job? Like, you know, like you're a state appointed defense attorney.
    (1:10:24)
  • Unknown B
    It becomes like the NFL.
    (1:10:43)
  • Unknown A
    You know what I mean? Like not as motivated as some like super high powered defense attorney that know, handles huge cases and knows the law inside. You know what I'm Saying it's like, who's gonna fix you now? Because, like, my friends in Canada, they say, yeah, healthcare is free. But, like, one of my friends, she had to wait. My friend Jen, she had to wait like a year plus to get an ACL surgery. And it's all fucked up still. So, like, this ACL surgery, she's waiting, like a whole year to get her knee fixed. I'm pretty sure. I hope I'm not speaking out of school. I'm pretty sure it was close to year. And so she's got a bad knee for a year. Whereas, like, in America, you're supposed to be able to go to the doctor. The doctor says your healthcare is. Oh, yep.
    (1:10:44)
  • Unknown A
    You definitely tore your acl, Brian. Okay, well, good news is you're covered. You know, you have a deductible, but this is your deductible. Okay, we can schedule you for February 16th. This is what we need you to do. No aspirin, no this, no that. You know, don't eat within eight hours, you get here because you're gonna go under. They tell you. They prep you for surgery, or they.
    (1:11:22)
  • Unknown B
    Tell you all of that, and then they go, oh, actually, you notice, not covered. Because you didn't tell us about this thing from. Yeah, okay, well, I still need the surgery, and I don't have, you know, $50,000.
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  • Unknown A
    Right.
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  • Unknown B
    It's like. That's the shitty part. Yeah. Because there's some people that, like, they are healthy and they take care of themselves and they pay their insurance, and then, you know, they get a tumor or something, you know, unforeseen.
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  • Unknown A
    Yes, 100%.
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  • Unknown B
    And they're completely.
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  • Unknown A
    They're completely.
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  • Unknown B
    And it's like, that shouldn't be possible.
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  • Unknown A
    Well, how about this fire insurance deal in California?
    (1:12:08)
  • Unknown B
    What happened?
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  • Unknown A
    Like, a giant percentage of those people that lost their homes in that fire, they didn't have insurance. These insurance companies pulled out a fire coverage.
    (1:12:13)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, bro. Did you also know there's. There's fires. The same thing's happening in South. South America and Africa. Yeah, just whole places burning the down. Just. I'm. I'm shocked that I'm not hearing more about this back because, you know, I. Only.
    (1:12:22)
  • Unknown A
    Here's the thing about the fires. There's satellite video of those fires, all three of them starting at the same time. You ever seen it? No, it's super suspicious. Super, super suspicious.
    (1:12:38)
  • Unknown B
    There's a set. There's satellite footage of all the three.
    (1:12:52)
  • Unknown A
    Fires starting at the same time simultaneously. Yeah. You want to see it? Yeah, you need to see it because it's so creepy. I think it was ar. I think somebody did it. Whether it was a schizophrenic person that a fire bug. There's a lot of those people that are fire bugs, man. There's people that are like actual arsonists. And when you get into the conditions that happen in the Santa Ana winds when California's dry, like, you remember when it was. You were there in 2018 with that big crazy fire. Right. Did you see any of that on the 405?
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown A
    Was insane.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah. And I remember there being a big one. Probably like 2007, two or 2008.
    (1:13:25)
  • Unknown A
    The thing is, it doesn't have to be some crazy conspiracy. People think it's a conspiracy, a land grab, this whole thing. Maybe, maybe. But also, people start fires. It's a known crime. In fact, one of the people that they arrested, he had a fake fire truck. So this dude was a known arsonist, I believe, from Oregon. He bought a fire truck truck and drove with a fireman's outfit and was going into these areas.
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  • Unknown B
    That's actually hilarious.
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  • Unknown A
    And he's an arsonist, like a known. So he's probably starting fires.
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  • Unknown B
    Arsonist with a fire truck.
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  • Unknown A
    How crazy is that? But some people are just out of their fucking minds, man. Including a lot of firemen. Like, that's a problem with firemen. There's been firemen who have started fires.
    (1:14:06)
  • Unknown B
    But it's wild that you, like, they. I feel like if you go to prison for all arson, like, you purposely burnish it, if they let you out, they should at least track you like they track Pedos.
    (1:14:17)
  • Unknown A
    Well, you're. You've killed a lot of people. Like, if one of these. If someone, a human being was caught that did definitely lit these three fires that appear simultaneously. If a human being did that, they're responsible for. I don't know how many deaths. How many people died? I think it's 25 or something like that. Yeah, 25 burned alive.
    (1:14:26)
  • Unknown B
    How much damage? How many people are going to?
    (1:14:44)
  • Unknown A
    The damage, sure. Like, you're in jail for the rest of your life. Forever, everything. For the damage. You're in jail for the rest of your life. You. You. You owe $350 billion and counting. It's $350 billion of damage. And then Altadena is gone.
    (1:14:46)
  • Unknown B
    And aren't they still having the Grammys or whatever?
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  • Unknown A
    I don't know. They probably are. Well, we did the UFC there. We did the UFC like, in the middle of the fires.
    (1:15:04)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, wow.
    (1:15:10)
  • Unknown A
    I didn't think we're going to do it. I was like, are we going to do it here? And Dana was like, we're going to do it. The Clippers are going to play there on. I forget what day, but earlier in the week. And if the Clippers play, we're going to do it. Otherwise they were going to do Vegas. They were just going to move everybody to Vegas if it got worse. Because they keep starting new ones.
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  • Unknown B
    Start.
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  • Unknown A
    There's one. No, there's one that's up in Santa Clarita. Somebody started one up there or something started one up there. The 2018 they know was an accident because they know there was a part, the part that cost $1. That one part failed and it started a fire. A $1 part?
    (1:15:28)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. I think we're going to just see more and more of this.
    (1:15:46)
  • Unknown A
    Well, they have to fix it. They have to fix it. You have to clean up the brush. You have to do what they did with the water. Where they opened up the water from the north to come flow freely down to the south and not diverted into the Pacific Ocean. The fill up, the reservoir that you had, that was 11 million gallons, that was empty. You fucking psychos. Like, what are you doing? You clearly haven't taken the right steps. If that can happen, it can be at least mitigated. You're always going to have those crazy winds. You're always going to have arsonists. You're always going to have things that fuck up where something starts a fire accidentally.
    (1:15:49)
  • Unknown B
    But don't they. Don't they do all that shit? They don't do like controlled burns and all that stuff?
    (1:16:22)
  • Unknown A
    Fact check. Old satellite footage falsely linked to 2025 LA wildfires. So what is that video of three fires starting simultaneously? Because people were saying it, it was the California fires.
    (1:16:26)
  • Unknown C
    Is this the video?
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  • Unknown A
    I don't know.
    (1:16:41)
  • Unknown C
    Looks like just a picture. But this is from 2024's fires. These are fires are in a different spot than the ones that just happened.
    (1:16:41)
  • Unknown A
    So I don't know if that's the one. It's hard to say.
    (1:16:49)
  • Unknown C
    This is the caption from the.
    (1:16:53)
  • Unknown A
    So it's miscaptioned. So it's not true. What about the one where it shows a person starting the fire? Because there is one video where they think that they have an image, an actual image of a guy starting the fire. Fire.
    (1:16:55)
  • Unknown C
    I think it was a person near it, but I'll double check.
    (1:17:06)
  • Unknown A
    Whoops. Just happened to be near with a blowtorch. How about that guy? They caught that one guy and he's like, I was just lighting my joint he had a blowtorch in his hand. And they made, like, a citizen's arrest.
    (1:17:09)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but he might have been telling the truth.
    (1:17:20)
  • Unknown A
    Nope. Dude had been arrested, like, eight times. He had. He had vandalism, all kinds of on his resume. Violent crimes, I believe.
    (1:17:22)
  • Unknown B
    That don't mean he was lying.
    (1:17:29)
  • Unknown A
    Well, he had. He was running around in a fire with a blowtorch. Hey, bro, put that down.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but how are you going? Like, how you gonna. Like your.
    (1:17:35)
  • Unknown A
    A lighter? He said he couldn't afford a lighter. A lighter is a quarter.
    (1:17:37)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, that's wild. I mean, it's wilder just to, like, carry a blue.
    (1:17:43)
  • Unknown A
    How much is a lighter? How much is, like, one of them little Bic lighters? A dollar? Is that a dollar?
    (1:17:46)
  • Unknown B
    Like, a dollar maybe? It's probably A$20 something.
    (1:17:50)
  • Unknown A
    See, if it's made in America, it's gonna cost more, all right? Otherwise, China's gonna chop off our supply of B. Who makes baby? Am I guessing?
    (1:17:52)
  • Unknown B
    See, I'm seeing in my head, I was thinking, like, you in the house, you can't find the lighter. So you're like, I got a torch. I'm gonna just use that.
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  • Unknown A
    I'm gonna run around on the street.
    (1:18:09)
  • Unknown B
    But you're saying he was, like, walking around outside.
    (1:18:10)
  • Unknown A
    They found him out where the fires were with a blowtorch, and he said it was empty. He's like, look, it's empty.
    (1:18:12)
  • Unknown B
    It's like, even if you're telling the truth, like your stupid ass deserve.
    (1:18:17)
  • Unknown A
    But also, just the inconvenience. Yeah, it was a criminal.
    (1:18:20)
  • Unknown B
    What was?
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  • Unknown A
    I just gonna ask you to Google.
    (1:18:25)
  • Unknown C
    I'm trying to find a picture. The satellite of a person near the.
    (1:18:26)
  • Unknown A
    Fire started, but Huberman filmed people starting fires. Andrew Huberman, he was driving down the street and he caught these guys starting a fire and filmed it, put it on his phone. So people are starting fires here because you got all these homeless people and crazy people and people that want to burn it all down, man. And while the fire is going on, they feel like, fuck it, man. Let's fucking. Let's help this fucking fire. Fuck these rich people people. I mean, it's the Palisades. They're like, the richest people in all of la.
    (1:18:29)
  • Unknown B
    You think that's their motivations?
    (1:19:01)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, I think a lot of that for the arsonists, I think it's. A lot of. It is, like, society. My life sucks. I think a lot of people just. There's crazy people, like the guy from Oregon that are like, almost like amateur firefighters, like, amateur arsonists. It's like they're that's their side project.
    (1:19:03)
  • Unknown B
    You see Chappelle talk about it on his SNL model?
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  • Unknown A
    I didn't.
    (1:19:21)
  • Unknown B
    Man. It's the best one ever.
    (1:19:22)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, easy. I know. I need to sit down and watch it. Everybody tells me it's awesome.
    (1:19:23)
  • Unknown B
    It's. Yeah, it's the best monologue I've ever seen.
    (1:19:28)
  • Unknown A
    On snl, we talked about Palestine. He compares Palestine to.
    (1:19:30)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, he pretty much went. He pretty much went through all the major things that's going on.
    (1:19:34)
  • Unknown A
    The Palestine thing is nuts. I watched a video yesterday of Gaza and I don't know if you've seen like, flyover drone footage of what it looks like now. Now?
    (1:19:39)
  • Unknown B
    Nope.
    (1:19:47)
  • Unknown A
    You want to see it?
    (1:19:49)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, let's see it.
    (1:19:49)
  • Unknown A
    Or do you want to, like, live?
    (1:19:50)
  • Unknown B
    No, I want to see it. I want to see it. I never see, like this.
    (1:19:52)
  • Unknown A
    It's crazy. You shouldn't go looking for it. Good. I won't send it to you anymore.
    (1:19:56)
  • Unknown B
    No, I don't mind. People send me the news, but I just don't actively go seek it out.
    (1:20:01)
  • Unknown A
    This is so depressing.
    (1:20:04)
  • Unknown B
    Cuz I'm like, if it's. If it's. If it's something I need to know, somebody will tell me about it.
    (1:20:05)
  • Unknown A
    They. There's a lot of before and after videos where they'll show someone driving down a road before and they show what it all looks like now. It's like the city doesn't exist anymore because it's so. It's like if way bigger than downtown Austin wiped off the map. Look at this. Yeah, this is crazy. So this is flying drone footage over Gaza City and it's just. Everything's destroyed. Everything's destroyed. It's like a. Like a nuke went off. Look at this. From the sky when you look at it, like as far as the eye can see, just destruction. Everything's got a missile hole in it. Everything's collapsed. Everything's up. Every now and then, like one house or one building in between is untouched, but most of it is destroyed. If I was the guy who lived next door to that house that's perfect. I'd be like, who did you pay?
    (1:20:09)
  • Unknown A
    Right. He doesn't even get blown up once.
    (1:21:04)
  • Unknown B
    This is crazy.
    (1:21:05)
  • Unknown A
    Crazy. And this is right now, Right now. And somehow we're being fed that this is the only way to do this and that somehow this is acceptable to get rid of Hamas, just completely annihilate everybody. I mean, the number of people that are dead now is off the charts. They don't even know how many.
    (1:21:06)
  • Unknown B
    Bro, this look this looks insane.
    (1:21:30)
  • Unknown A
    Insane. Insane. Insane. It's insane. And it's happening right now.
    (1:21:32)
  • Unknown B
    This is how it used to look, huh?
    (1:21:37)
  • Unknown A
    Is what it used to look like. Look at that. Shops and cars. And now it's just. Just destroyed everything. Destroyed. They bombed the out of everything.
    (1:21:40)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, this should make you feel something.
    (1:21:51)
  • Unknown A
    Well, this is like. This is never coming back. Like, this is like they essentially like moved everybody out of it there. Like, who's gonna stay there now?
    (1:21:53)
  • Unknown B
    What is all of this? What is all of the. What is it? What is that? What is all.
    (1:22:03)
  • Unknown A
    Tents. Tents where people have to like stay in tents. And by the way, they might bomb those tents too. The whole thing is very scary, dude, because the. It's. It's just at a level of destruction that's impossible to say that you support it. It's like, this is insane. These are human lives. Like, how many. How many people are dying here? Is this the only way to do this? Is this the only way to do this? This seems. It seems crazy.
    (1:22:07)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
    (1:22:33)
  • Unknown A
    And how did you guys get to this point?
    (1:22:34)
  • Unknown B
    Damn. See, man. See. So, you know, this is why I avoid the news.
    (1:22:37)
  • Unknown A
    Good.
    (1:22:41)
  • Unknown B
    It's because all the happy. All the stupidest people I know are happy as. So I'm like, I just need to know less and I can enjoy.
    (1:22:41)
  • Unknown A
    I think there's something to that. But you kind of. I think we kind of need to pay attention nowadays. I think things are getting real weird. Real weird.
    (1:22:49)
  • Unknown B
    Because you know what it is? It's the. Of truth. Like, it's hard to know what's true. You hear something. It sound true and then you hear something else go, that's not true. And then both can point to the links and studies and you like. I. It's just stressful trying to figure out what's correct and what isn't.
    (1:22:59)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, that's on purpose. I know that's on purpose. That's. They're. They're doing a real good job of confusing people. That's when I. When I. You know.
    (1:23:15)
  • Unknown B
    And everybody thinks they Right.
    (1:23:23)
  • Unknown A
    Everybody thinks they're right. Yeah. And there's also a lot of stuff that's going on behind the scenes. Like a lot of the way stories are amplified is to serve as a distraction from other things that are taking place at the same time. Like, they love to do stuff like that where they'll push out a story like some inflammatory story. The really. The design of that story is to get you distracted from other things that are going on simultaneously. That's what I think. A lot of this when I Think about the UFO stuff. I'm always like, man, this. If I wanted something to distract the shit out of people, this is a really good one. Not saying that that's what they're doing, but it makes me.
    (1:23:25)
  • Unknown B
    The scientific discovery yesterday.
    (1:24:02)
  • Unknown A
    No, you were about to tell me.
    (1:24:03)
  • Unknown B
    At the beginning they fucking. They had a. They found a asteroid.
    (1:24:05)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, I did see this.
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  • Unknown B
    And it had like most of the ingredients for life.
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  • Unknown A
    Yes.
    (1:24:16)
  • Unknown B
    Like all the amino acids. Not all of them, but like all but three. And then all of. I forget what the big ass word this lady used, but it. I think this was a theory before, but it's becoming more and more likely that life was seeded by asteroid impact. Asteroid or something.
    (1:24:16)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, that's a theory called panspermia. Panspermia, yeah. And it also accounts for some things that don't fit in. Like, like psilocybin mushrooms. Like they. There's something very alien about them that one of the things about spores, that spores can survive like almost anything. They could survive in a vacuum. They could survive through space. Like spores are like insanely durable and it's. If you have the potential for all of these amino acids and different minerals. And there was absolutely salt on that, right? Wasn't there salt on that rock as well?
    (1:24:34)
  • Unknown B
    I don't know.
    (1:25:12)
  • Unknown A
    I think there was a bunch of different elements, elements of life on that asteroid and why not spores? And if you know some mushroom that grows on another planet where these human beings interact with nature through it, then it just lands here on Earth. Did you find it?
    (1:25:13)
  • Unknown B
    OSIRIS REX MISSION so they found amino acids, nucleotide base is minerals from saltwater and more.
    (1:25:35)
  • Unknown A
    So that means it has all the building blocks of life and it comes from salt water and a chunk of it comes flying off in that nutty. Like that's how a lot of things they think. That's like maybe how the water got here. That's one of the theories. Yeah, that like comet. Comet, yeah, that comets hit us and that's where we got the water. Is that a real theory still? Because they changed them. Those, you know, like they look at them, they go, well maybe like now they, they're wondering with whether dark energy is real. They think maybe time moves differently in between galaxies. Like they've got some like new theory.
    (1:25:46)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I've heard, I've heard whisper. I think I heard Neil DeGrasse Tyson talk about that recently.
    (1:26:22)
  • Unknown A
    All of it is like, what are you even saying?
    (1:26:27)
  • Unknown B
    Or like. Or that gravity is different in different places. Something like that.
    (1:26:29)
  • Unknown A
    They think there's that gravity and Space time moves differently in the voids in between galaxies and planets.
    (1:26:33)
  • Unknown B
    Wait a minute, who's saying that?
    (1:26:43)
  • Unknown A
    Who's saying that? Like, what are you saying?
    (1:26:44)
  • Unknown B
    That's what I'm saying.
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  • Unknown A
    They think that's what accounts for the.
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  • Unknown B
    No less. Because it's breaking my brain.
    (1:26:51)
  • Unknown A
    That's why they're apart from each other. It's not that dark energy is pushing them away from each other. I don't know. Like this, this is the theory of like dark matter. And dark energy is like 90 something percent of the universe is this theory.
    (1:26:54)
  • Unknown B
    Right.
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  • Unknown A
    So what does that mean? So if it's not that, then there's 90% of the universe. What it's like just space time moving in a different way. Like what happened?
    (1:27:07)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I mean, science has been kind of killing it.
    (1:27:15)
  • Unknown A
    Well, they've got some new tools now. Like that James Webb telescope. That thing's crazy.
    (1:27:18)
  • Unknown B
    When I first told you about it hadn't launched yet. And I was like, that's going to change everything.
    (1:27:23)
  • Unknown A
    Well, I remember Duncan told me something about it a long time ago. He said they found something that they think is at least 22 billion years old. They found some star cluster or something that they think is 22 billion years old. So it throws the whole Big Bang thing.
    (1:27:26)
  • Unknown B
    Is he talking about the Methodist Star?
    (1:27:44)
  • Unknown A
    No. That's interesting too, because the Methuselah star is actually older somehow than the entire universe, which doesn't make any sense. It's like 14 plus billion years old. So it's like a little bit older than what they think was the Big Bang.
    (1:27:46)
  • Unknown B
    But then didn't somebody research recently? Well, not recently, but didn't someone say that like it's still within the margin of error?
    (1:27:58)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, it's still within the margin the Methuselah star is, but not this new discovery. So the new discovery for the James Webb Telescope is they found galaxies that formed too quickly and they formed so long ago, like so far away because they could see bigger now that it's changing. Like there's two things possible. Maybe we were wrong about how quickly galaxies form. Maybe they form way quicker or maybe the universe is way older than we think it is. So maybe the reason why these things exist and then you could find them. And then although there's things that like blink in and that they exist at one point in time and don't exist anymore, they don't know what the fuck those are, these red lights, these red spots that they found in the universe. But they think that it's very. People are very reluctant to commit Right.
    (1:28:05)
  • Unknown A
    Because they don't really know. But the potential is that the universe is not 14 or 13 point whatever billion years old, but maybe as old as 24 billion years old.
    (1:28:55)
  • Unknown B
    Or maybe the next time you come in here, I want to be to the head. The next time you have one of these Lawrence Kraus, you want to be.
    (1:29:04)
  • Unknown A
    In here with Michio cock.
    (1:29:11)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, because I love. I'm fascinated by this kind of shit.
    (1:29:13)
  • Unknown A
    The problem with two people talking is, like, I got a lot, like, lock in on these dudes.
    (1:29:16)
  • Unknown B
    I just want to listen.
    (1:29:20)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, but you. I'd want you to chime in too, that just like, with some of these people, like, you have to have one on one. Because even if I do, two guests, like, everybody always has something cool to say. Right? And then someone else is talking and you want to. It's hard. It's hard to, like, work it. And when you got someone who's talking about something, like, very esoteric, very difficult to grasp, you know, they're talking about, like, quantum physics. They're trying to explain to you the. These. The dynamics of these subatomic particles, like what you need, like, one person just locked on.
    (1:29:21)
  • Unknown B
    Every time I hear a quantum physicist talk, I never understand everything they say, bro.
    (1:29:56)
  • Unknown A
    I barely understand a fraction of what.
    (1:30:02)
  • Unknown B
    They'Re talking about, even when they talking about other shit. Yeah, yeah.
    (1:30:05)
  • Unknown A
    Like they're operating on a different level.
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  • Unknown B
    Let Eric Weinstein track. Give you a recipe.
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  • Unknown A
    Oh, yeah.
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  • Unknown B
    Jesus Christ, man.
    (1:30:15)
  • Unknown A
    Weinstein's crazy smart in a spooky way.
    (1:30:17)
  • Unknown B
    I know, but he's like, he forgets how much smarter than.
    (1:30:20)
  • Unknown A
    Right. He'll talk to you in a way that, like, I don't even know what you're saying.
    (1:30:23)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but, like, I don't have that degree, bro.
    (1:30:26)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, well, he has a theory of everything. I do not understand it at all. I don't know how many people could follow it. I don't understand it. But that kind of person that would sit around and try to create a theory of everything, everything, he's of the belief that potentially we're looking at us made stuff that's, like, super advanced and that they've put a lid on it somehow.
    (1:30:28)
  • Unknown B
    Well, what would be the purpose of that?
    (1:30:50)
  • Unknown A
    Because I think if you develop something in secrecy, like they do all the time with, like, the stealth bomber, all these different things, even the Manhattan Project, you develop things in secrecy. And then there comes a time where you, you, you test them, you use them, you have them. But then are you going to admit you have them? Because then the enemy's going to infiltrate. They're going to find out you have them. There's espionage. They're going to steal your information. They've been doing that forever. We talked about these back doors that China has and all our electronics or potentially could have. Right. How many things are vulnerable because of AI now? How many things are vulnerable because everything's attached to the Internet? How many things could be hacked? Who fucking knows? But the reality is we're in like. Like a very uniquely vulnerable position in terms of if someone did have that kind of technology that could take over AI systems, that could kill the power grid, that could fly things through the sky autonomously that move at speeds that are impossible to imagine with conventional aircraft and can really, like you said, park it
    (1:30:52)
  • Unknown A
    over the White House. Maybe part of what he's saying is true. Maybe he really did write that. Maybe someone wrote that and it's like some truth and some wacky to try to throw you off of the truth. Which is also a strategy that gets used when you have something that's like a real conspiracy, you know, you do. You attach it to a bunch of other, like witchcraft, voodoo, ghosts. Attach it to stupid shit.
    (1:31:55)
  • Unknown B
    You make it sound crazy.
    (1:32:16)
  • Unknown A
    Make it sound crazy? Yeah. This. These people came from the Bigfoot is an interdimensional traveler who communicates with people telepathically and, you know, add some stuff to it that just makes it stupid, but inside of it have, like, the truth. They definitely do that. They do that to make people's stories seem stupid when they go and tell them to the press.
    (1:32:17)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I mean, that's what I would do if I was. If I. If it was in my interest to keep some kind of weird things secret, like tell people. You just gonna sound crazy.
    (1:32:36)
  • Unknown A
    Well, if you were like, abducted by a ufo, you're gonna sound crazy. What are you gonna do?
    (1:32:45)
  • Unknown B
    Like, you walk in the green room and you see. And you see me changing heads, kids. I turn around like, oh, you've been.
    (1:32:50)
  • Unknown A
    A robot this whole time? Yeah.
    (1:32:59)
  • Unknown B
    It's like no one will leave you.
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  • Unknown A
    Yeah. The. The new alien Romulus.
    (1:33:01)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
    (1:33:03)
  • Unknown A
    Have you seen the new one?
    (1:33:04)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, yeah, it was great. It's actually. I saw it. That was the first time I actually enjoyed one of those. I don't know, they call them 4D or D box with like, they got the smoke and all that.
    (1:33:06)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, you went to one of those places.
    (1:33:18)
  • Unknown B
    I saw that movie. Yeah.
    (1:33:20)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, that's a good movie move.
    (1:33:21)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. And the thing is, it's not a consistent experience yet, but that was the best one I'VE had so far. Especially when I. When I realized like, you could turn the water off because. Because like when, like the alien spray some of the get on you and. Oh, it's like a spray from the ceiling. And I was like, you know, I'm having a good time, but I don't.
    (1:33:23)
  • Unknown A
    Want to get wet.
    (1:33:40)
  • Unknown B
    But can I turn this water off? But you. But you can. I just didn't realize it for way too long.
    (1:33:41)
  • Unknown A
    It was the first of these Alien movies since the original. That captured. Captured the spirit of the original one. Like the fear of going through the corridors, not knowing where that thing is, it hunting you. The way it got to those people. That was a good Alien movie. I think that was the best Alien movie since Alien 1.
    (1:33:45)
  • Unknown B
    I think Alien 2 was like that though.
    (1:34:03)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. But Alien 2, they were too easy to kill. I didn't like how they could just gun them down.
    (1:34:07)
  • Unknown B
    But you're right, it was the same sort of. I don't know, Prometheus was kind of the same kind of spirit.
    (1:34:11)
  • Unknown A
    Prometheus is pretty good. Covenant was pretty better. I like Covenant. Covenant was really good. Michael Fassbender, he's the.
    (1:34:16)
  • Unknown B
    I didn't like Prometheus until the second time I watched.
    (1:34:23)
  • Unknown A
    Oh yeah.
    (1:34:25)
  • Unknown B
    But yeah. Cuz this wasn't what I was expecting. You know, it's like.
    (1:34:26)
  • Unknown A
    Right.
    (1:34:30)
  • Unknown B
    But once I saw it, like on.
    (1:34:31)
  • Unknown A
    Its own merit, I think Covenant's better. Prometheus is pretty good. But you know, they had this story to tell about like seeding DNA and the, the operators.
    (1:34:32)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, Covenant was. Covenant was the one where they, where they, they. Where they landed.
    (1:34:42)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (1:34:45)
  • Unknown B
    Okay. Yeah, that was great.
    (1:34:45)
  • Unknown A
    The other one was. There was the actual like human like aliens in their planet and they have like some war and they all die. And this one guy comes to remember these guys, remember, that's Prometheus.
    (1:34:48)
  • Unknown B
    I forget what they called them.
    (1:35:00)
  • Unknown A
    Did they call them the operators? No, but there was no Xenomorphs.
    (1:35:01)
  • Unknown B
    They didn't have a war. They were seeding other planet.
    (1:35:06)
  • Unknown A
    They're gonna do a Prometheus too. Says no xenomorphs. And Prometheus 2. Oh, they're gonna have a Prometheus too.
    (1:35:10)
  • Unknown C
    It's gonna be old articles. I'm just.
    (1:35:15)
  • Unknown A
    I hope they do another one because you have like a whole universe of alien possibilities now because they skip timelines and you know, like this one, they is like right after the Nostromo gets blown up and they find it and they find the. Dude, you know. You saw it? Yeah, it's good.
    (1:35:17)
  • Unknown B
    Well, you know what was dope about? Aliens 1. And what was the other? The one.
    (1:35:34)
  • Unknown A
    Prometheus. No, no, the Aliens 2.
    (1:35:40)
  • Unknown B
    Latest one.
    (1:35:42)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, God, what did I call it?
    (1:35:43)
  • Unknown B
    So what they had in common was like the. The protagonist didn't know what they were dealing with.
    (1:35:46)
  • Unknown A
    Right.
    (1:35:52)
  • Unknown B
    So that's. It made it more exciting, you know?
    (1:35:52)
  • Unknown A
    Right, right, right. Because it was right afterwards. So it. People hadn't known yet.
    (1:35:54)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. And every and all the other aliens left it as like. Yeah, I know exactly how to deal with these moments.
    (1:35:59)
  • Unknown A
    Exactly Right. Get away from her.
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  • Unknown B
    You please believe me.
    (1:36:07)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. When she's got the robot suit on. I didn't like that either. She. That thing would her up in that robot.
    (1:36:08)
  • Unknown B
    And then wasn't there one where, like, they. Like, she gave birth to one?
    (1:36:14)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. Sigourney Weaver was probably the first woman that was the badass in the lead of a science fiction action movie movie. And it was 1979, bro.
    (1:36:18)
  • Unknown B
    Speaking of which. Yo, Charlize Theron. It's a. It's a movie on Netflix. I have no idea why it wasn't bigger, but it's called like, she's a. She's immortal. Can you look that up?
    (1:36:33)
  • Unknown A
    She's immortal.
    (1:36:44)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, she's a. She's. She leads this team of immortals and they're like mercenaries or whatever.
    (1:36:45)
  • Unknown A
    So it's like a superhero movie.
    (1:36:49)
  • Unknown B
    Kind of old guard. Old guard. It's good as.
    (1:36:52)
  • Unknown A
    Really?
    (1:36:56)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, really. She's real good at playing, like a badass. You know, she played Furiosa. She killed that.
    (1:36:57)
  • Unknown A
    Well, she also played Eileen Wernos, that serial killer.
    (1:37:02)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, she don't around, so.
    (1:37:05)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, she's a beautiful woman. She gained like 50 pounds to play that person.
    (1:37:08)
  • Unknown B
    Really?
    (1:37:12)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, she got fat, shaved her eyebrows off, looked disgusting. Like Charlize Theron is beautiful. It's like stunningly good looking. I've seen her in person, and then you see what she looked like in that movie. Like, you know, the kind of courage that it takes to do that. Oh, you never saw Monster, bro.
    (1:37:13)
  • Unknown B
    Okay. No, I've seen Monster.
    (1:37:29)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, Monster's a great movie. Shout out to my friend Penny Patty Jenkins, who made it. But that movie was like, no, ladies do that. Like Robert De Niro did that. You know? You know Marky Mark's done that. Stallone got fat. For a movie, they'll do that. But like, for her. Wow, bro. Crazy. And she looks just like that lady.
    (1:37:30)
  • Unknown B
    No, but I didn't see this. I was mixing this up with another movie called look, I pissed on your grave or something. Oh, yeah, There's A revenge we call. I piss on your grave.
    (1:37:53)
  • Unknown A
    I was telling you before. You know what's good? It's nos.
    (1:38:03)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I'm gonna go watch her. I'm gonna download it for the plane.
    (1:38:06)
  • Unknown A
    Actually, it's. I'm saying it right now. It's the best vampire movie ever.
    (1:38:09)
  • Unknown B
    Ever.
    (1:38:13)
  • Unknown A
    The best vampire.
    (1:38:13)
  • Unknown B
    That's a big statement.
    (1:38:15)
  • Unknown A
    That's a big statement. I'm saying it. It's the best vampire movie ever. It's the creepiest vampire movie ever.
    (1:38:16)
  • Unknown B
    So you say it's better than Blade?
    (1:38:23)
  • Unknown A
    Blade was awesome. But Blade was a superhero movie more than it was a.
    (1:38:25)
  • Unknown B
    So you don't. Because you don't count Blade as a vampire movie.
    (1:38:29)
  • Unknown A
    It was a vampire movie. And that the superhero had to kill the vampires. But it's a Marvel Comic guy. I know Blade since I was a teenager. I was into Marvel Comics.
    (1:38:30)
  • Unknown B
    The Blade's a vampire movie the way that like Die Hards a Christmas.
    (1:38:39)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. Blade was a badass martial artist who was half vampire, who was up vampires. He was the day Walker. It's a fun superhero movie more than anything.
    (1:38:42)
  • Unknown B
    But the movie wasn't really about the vampires.
    (1:38:50)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, right. It was like they were the enemy and he was the good guy. That was the movie. The movie was essentially, you know, revenge. They killed Riddler. Oh.
    (1:38:52)
  • Unknown B
    You know, so what about, like, what's the one that the. The teenage heartthrob one that kind of ruined it?
    (1:39:00)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, Twilight. Yeah. That's bullshit.
    (1:39:06)
  • Unknown B
    Do you consider those vampire.
    (1:39:07)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, those are vampire movies. They're fun. They're fun if you're a girl. Like, there's a lot of stuff that girls like that I don't like. I don't have to like it for it to be good. Obviously. It made hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. People love those movies.
    (1:39:09)
  • Unknown B
    But, you know, I'm not one of those people that's like, it doesn't have to be good for me to like it because there's a lot of people that like bad movies.
    (1:39:22)
  • Unknown A
    Right.
    (1:39:27)
  • Unknown B
    I can't get with it.
    (1:39:28)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, I'm not a fan of watching bad movies. But. But Nosferatu.
    (1:39:29)
  • Unknown B
    Trailer for Nosferatu.
    (1:39:34)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, it's really good, dude. It's really good. Like for real. Like if you like a good old fashioned horror vampire movie. And the dude who plays Count Orlok is the dude who played Pennywise in it. And it's the best vampire ever. They're probably not going to show you anything in the trailer. What he looks. Looked like, but holy. Dude. There's this one scene where you get to see like his whole body naked, rises up out of the coffin. Spoiler alert. It's insane. The. The. And not just creepy, but beautifully shot.
    (1:39:35)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, I remember seeing previews for this.
    (1:40:12)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, dude. It's good. It's good. It's good then. And they're not gonna even show you in. Even in the trailer they don't show you the vampire. And when you. When. When you do get to see the. Dude, it's incredible. That's not real. That is like some fan made. There's a video where you could see him. Google Orlok.
    (1:40:13)
  • Unknown B
    So much of the shit on the Internet is bullshit.
    (1:40:37)
  • Unknown C
    I try not to spoil it for Brian.
    (1:40:39)
  • Unknown A
    What. What he looks like.
    (1:40:42)
  • Unknown C
    It's a big reveal in the movie.
    (1:40:43)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know really, but it's based on the. The image, the way he looks is based on the original legend of Dracula, which was a guy named Vlad the Impaler Taylor, so.
    (1:40:45)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, he was real.
    (1:40:55)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. This is what he looks like in this. But you gotta see it. Like this is a very toned down version of it. It's incredible. But like if you like a good scary horror movie, it's the best vampire movie.
    (1:40:56)
  • Unknown B
    I love a reveal.
    (1:41:08)
  • Unknown A
    It's a great reveal. It's really good. And it. They drag it out. Like you get to see him kind of in the beginning and then. Then eventually you get to really see him and you're like, oh my God.
    (1:41:09)
  • Unknown B
    And this isn't my take. I've heard other people talk about like this, but that's the other thing that made Alien great. Was like before. It's like you don't always show the monster.
    (1:41:19)
  • Unknown A
    Exactly, exactly.
    (1:41:28)
  • Unknown B
    Cuz it's like cuz. Cuz. Cuz. Cuz like horror is like seeing the monster and how much it's gonna definitely kill you.
    (1:41:30)
  • Unknown A
    Yes.
    (1:41:38)
  • Unknown B
    But like terror is like knowing that there's some in here and I don't know what the it is.
    (1:41:39)
  • Unknown A
    You need a little foreplay.
    (1:41:44)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, yeah.
    (1:41:45)
  • Unknown A
    It's like I walk in before you get horrified.
    (1:41:45)
  • Unknown B
    Why is Johnson and dead? Yes, he was. I was just in here with it. What the. Why the wall built it. You know, that's the. That's the. That makes it good.
    (1:41:47)
  • Unknown A
    Exactly, exactly. And this movie does it perfect.
    (1:41:54)
  • Unknown B
    Jaws.
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  • Unknown A
    Jaws.
    (1:41:59)
  • Unknown B
    That's why Jaws was such a hit.
    (1:41:59)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right.
    (1:42:00)
  • Unknown B
    Jaws was great. It still holds up. Predator. Still. You ever seen Predator?
    (1:42:02)
  • Unknown A
    Predator holds up.
    (1:42:05)
  • Unknown B
    That still holds up. The first Predator.
    (1:42:06)
  • Unknown A
    If it bleeds, we can kill it.
    (1:42:07)
  • Unknown B
    No, no, no. My fa. My favorite line is with is when Jesse Van Dura. No, no, when they walk into the woods and. And old boy keeps making noise, he goes. He goes, you. This like. He tell him, like, if you make. If you keep making noise, I'm gonna bleed you. I'm gonna like, leave you out here. I forget what. I forget what the word is he used, but he was like, are you telling everybody where the we at, by the way? You moving, talking, tripping, sliding.
    (1:42:09)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, there's something about that. The idea that a sporting alien would come down and hunt people that's uniquely scary. Scary.
    (1:42:34)
  • Unknown B
    So many iconic scenes in there too. Oh, yeah, the. The joint where the. With a native dude is like, it.
    (1:42:40)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, take off my.
    (1:42:47)
  • Unknown B
    I'm gonna cut my chest up. That. That's a dope one. The. The one where they. Where. Where Arnold and Apollo Creed, where they do this right here.
    (1:42:49)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (1:43:00)
  • Unknown B
    So. So this is what's wild. That's a meme now. Yeah, right? Just. But just their arms.
    (1:43:00)
  • Unknown A
    Uh huh.
    (1:43:06)
  • Unknown B
    And. And a lot of people don't even know that it's from Predator. They just. They just see it. Like, that's the. That's the meme.
    (1:43:06)
  • Unknown A
    Right, right, right.
    (1:43:13)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. I've showed. I've tried to show that to one of my nephews. He was like, oh, that's the. That's like the cooperation meme or whatever the fuck they called it.
    (1:43:15)
  • Unknown A
    They started getting silly with Aliens vs. Predator. Remember that? They were doing that for a while. There it is.
    (1:43:22)
  • Unknown B
    I'm here. I'm here for that.
    (1:43:27)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, that's an arm wrestling senior predator. Yeah, that's. That's it.
    (1:43:28)
  • Unknown B
    They're like, this is how two badasses say hello.
    (1:43:34)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, they have arm wrestling in the air. It's so stupid.
    (1:43:36)
  • Unknown B
    It's so dumb though, this movie was. The dialogue is crazy.
    (1:43:40)
  • Unknown A
    That's back when Carl Weathers was jacked.
    (1:43:43)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
    (1:43:46)
  • Unknown A
    I didn't know when to quit. Huh?
    (1:43:49)
  • Unknown B
    You didn't know it. To quit, huh? What is this tie business? Oh, come on. Forget about my time.
    (1:43:50)
  • Unknown A
    The way they acted back then was like. It was a different form of language. It's like, it seems so fake compared. Like, if that was like a director today, like the same director that did Nosferato, he'd be like, cut, cut. What are we doing?
    (1:43:55)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
    (1:44:08)
  • Unknown A
    Are you guys really meeting each other for the first time or is this like a play? Come on.
    (1:44:09)
  • Unknown B
    And also convince me, bro, the run that Arnold had.
    (1:44:14)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, he did a gang of great movies.
    (1:44:17)
  • Unknown B
    Like, just actions. Like, he's the Conan, bro.
    (1:44:19)
  • Unknown A
    He did Conan.
    (1:44:22)
  • Unknown B
    Conan the Bob Bury him.
    (1:44:23)
  • Unknown A
    You know who was the best Conan though?
    (1:44:25)
  • Unknown B
    What?
    (1:44:26)
  • Unknown A
    Jason Mamoa. Jason Mamoa did a terrible Conan movie, but he was the best Conan. Cuz he was the only Conan that looked like Conan. Really looked like. Conan was like super muscular, but he wasn't a bodybuilder. He looked like a killer. He looked like a UFC fighter. He looked like, like Yuri Prohaska would be a good Conan. Like that kind of build. Like a big strong guy, but not a bodybuilder. And also it's like, like the film was more stylistically appropriate to like the Conan lore.
    (1:44:27)
  • Unknown B
    What do you mean? How Conan looked in the books? Oh, I didn't know Conan was books.
    (1:44:55)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, dude, I'm a super Conan nerd. Super nerd.
    (1:45:01)
  • Unknown B
    There was like a comic book before.
    (1:45:04)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, well, it was a book. Robert E. Howard, he wrote books about Conan the Conqueror and he created this whole like world of Samaria where he's from. And. And this whole lore of this one usurper who rises and kills everybody. And that's Conan. And he slays dragons and monsters and demons and you know, I think he comes back from the dead at one point in time. Like it's a crazy. He's the greatest warrior of all time.
    (1:45:05)
  • Unknown B
    You know what Conan was for me as a kid? It was my first like John Wick, right? Oh, this is going to fuck everything up.
    (1:45:33)
  • Unknown A
    That's how the books were. Yeah, the books were incredible. The books were written by a guy who lived with his mom and committed suicide. So the dude was like. He was getting. He wanted. His life sucked. He was super depressed and he got thrill out of imagining him being Conan the Barbarian and conquering lands and having sex with all these beautiful women and killing sorcerers.
    (1:45:40)
  • Unknown B
    They came up after he died?
    (1:46:06)
  • Unknown A
    No, they, they were. This is like in the 1930s. The 30s is when he wrote it. Yeah, it was a long time ago. He wrote these books and then they turned them into comic books in the 1960s. When did they start making Conan comic books? So then they had the comic books and then they had illustrated books. And then I think that was the first Conan movie was Arnold. I think he was the first Conan movie. And there's been a few attempts since then, but no one has really captured the books like stylistically, except for like the Jason Momoa movie. But the movie just wasn't that good. Just wasn't a. Someone needs to. Do you need like a real like a Robert Eggers. The guy who did this Nosferatu movie. That's his name, right? It's Robert Eggers, right? The guy who did the Nosferatu movie.
    (1:46:08)
  • Unknown A
    That guy like, that guy did a Conan movie. It would be sick. But it has to be like a realistic movie. It has to be a movie of this realistic warrior encountering these crazy things. It can't be like cartoonish. It can't be like, I just have to believe this dumb shit. Too much suspension of disbelief. It's got to be like a wild movie based.
    (1:47:05)
  • Unknown C
    The Northman.
    (1:47:27)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, the Northman was amazing. Did you see that?
    (1:47:28)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, I saw that.
    (1:47:31)
  • Unknown A
    That's exactly what I'm talking about. This kind of movie is exactly like what Conan would have to be. That movie's fucking great. That's like one of the best Viking movies. Not the best one.
    (1:47:32)
  • Unknown B
    It's actually dark as hell.
    (1:47:44)
  • Unknown A
    Really good movie. Oh, it's. There's no good guys in that movie. That movies crazy. And probably representative of real. The real life of Vikings, the way they really lived. Because they were ruthless. That movie's great, but it's also got like. It was supernatural in it. There's a lot of cool in that movie.
    (1:47:45)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they believed in a lot of supernatural.
    (1:48:04)
  • Unknown A
    If that guy directed Conan. Holy. Then you would get to see like the real books because the Robert D. Howard books were great.
    (1:48:07)
  • Unknown B
    So the same guy that did Nasaratu did Northman.
    (1:48:14)
  • Unknown A
    Yes. Oh, yes, bro. It's good. It's good. No, the Nosferat is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. Time. It's great. And it's so beautiful. Like, the way it's shot is so beautiful. There's a scene when he's walking up to the castle. It's the creepiest setup of all time. It's so good. I don't want to. I don't want to ruin it. It's so good. If you like those kind of movies. I love those kind of movies. I grew up on monster movies. I grew up on like, you know, that's why I have that American Werewolf in London out there. I grew up on all of that.
    (1:48:16)
  • Unknown B
    I'm here for monsters. Action, revenge. That's. That's my kind of movies.
    (1:48:51)
  • Unknown A
    Nosferato, cinematographer, promises Robert Eggers werewolf is unlike anything done before.
    (1:48:55)
  • Unknown B
    Wow.
    (1:49:01)
  • Unknown A
    A medieval werewolf movie. Oh, boy. And the primary candidate has never been used in a film. What does that mean?
    (1:49:02)
  • Unknown B
    Maybe the. The guy they want to lead it.
    (1:49:10)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, yeah.
    (1:49:12)
  • Unknown C
    Actor. The perfect subject. Like the character of the.
    (1:49:13)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, wait a minute.
    (1:49:17)
  • Unknown A
    So it's a new character?
    (1:49:17)
  • Unknown B
    The lighthouse too?
    (1:49:18)
  • Unknown C
    Yeah.
    (1:49:19)
  • Unknown B
    Wow, that was weird.
    (1:49:20)
  • Unknown C
    And the witch.
    (1:49:22)
  • Unknown A
    Wow. That guy's done some killer movies. I'm excited about this werewolf movie. I've been saying that forever. Someone needs to make another good werewolf movie like that Benicio del Toro.
    (1:49:23)
  • Unknown C
    One specific medieval image or tale of werewolfry that's being clipped close to their chest. So it's like a story that hasn't been made into a movie yet.
    (1:49:32)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, but medieval. So, like candlelight, spooky. It's gonna be awesome.
    (1:49:40)
  • Unknown B
    Maybe the Jackson Jack Nicholson werewolf one. What was that called?
    (1:49:44)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, yeah, that was terrible. With Michelle Pfeiffer. That was so stupid. They're like, ah, it looked just like a person.
    (1:49:47)
  • Unknown B
    I went and saw that. My family went and saw that. And I went and saw another. A different movie. It was the first time that. Because we used to. It was like a thing we did. We go go to the movies like every other week. But in my. My father. My step didn't give a. About no age limit. You gonna see. We see it. You know, this is the first time I was like, I don't want to see that. And I. And I still end up going in there after my. Because my movie was over before this. I think I went and saw Circuit 2 or something.
    (1:49:54)
  • Unknown A
    He's going and chasing after this deer. Ah, I'm a wolf. Look. He just looks like a regular guy. It's so dopey. It's so silly. Like, look at this. They decided to make a horror movie that wasn't that scary. And he moves like the Six Million Dollar Man. Look, slow motion jump. Obviously, stuntman, he's gonna tackle this deer. And I'm supposed to believe this. I'm supposed to believe that this dude, who just looks like a dude, can run faster than a fucking deer. Look at. He's running. It's so dumb. He's flying through the air. Like, how does becoming a human that's part wolf make you this fast when you look exactly this. Fuck. Same. No, he's gonna. He's on a tree. He flies and he grabs the deer. This is so stupid. It's so stupid. See, the owl's freaking out. This is crazy. This is crazy.
    (1:50:21)
  • Unknown A
    Did you ever see the Benicio del Toro one? There's one good scene. One good scene when the doctors are examining him and they're trying to tell him that he's out of his fucking mind. And the doctor speaking in one of those medical theaters, theaters, like they used to do in the 1800s. And he's explaining that this person has delusions and they think they're going to Be a wolf. And so we're going to show him by having him tied to this chair while the moon turns full. And we're going to like cure him of whatever the is wrong with his brain. So they have him in this thing. Give me some volume on this. And once Mr. Talbot has witnessed that.
    (1:51:21)
  • Unknown B
    The full moon holds no sway over him, that he remains a perfectly ordinary.
    (1:51:55)
  • Unknown A
    Human being, he will have taken his first small step down the long road to mental recovery.
    (1:52:02)
  • Unknown B
    I can just feel everybody in this room about to die.
    (1:52:13)
  • Unknown A
    Everybody's gonna die. It's great.
    (1:52:16)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, this is awesome. He witnessed his mother's self mutilations.
    (1:52:18)
  • Unknown A
    His young mind that accepted created a fantastical truth that his father is to blame. His father's a werewolf.
    (1:52:24)
  • Unknown C
    Skip ahead or.
    (1:52:34)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, skip ahead a little bit.
    (1:52:35)
  • Unknown B
    You.
    (1:52:37)
  • Unknown A
    Tonight, I will kill all of you.
    (1:52:40)
  • Unknown B
    I will kill all of you.
    (1:52:44)
  • Unknown A
    Yes. Well, as you can see, like hum trees. Do something about it.
    (1:52:47)
  • Unknown B
    This is optimite existing. Kill me somewhere in the deep.
    (1:52:54)
  • Unknown A
    Kill me.
    (1:52:59)
  • Unknown B
    To him, it seems very real.
    (1:53:03)
  • Unknown A
    The subject.
    (1:53:07)
  • Unknown B
    Come on, get the out of there, man. What more you need to see?
    (1:53:17)
  • Unknown A
    It seems to be locked, sir. It's a great scene.
    (1:54:36)
  • Unknown B
    See, my only problem.
    (1:55:08)
  • Unknown A
    Great scene.
    (1:55:09)
  • Unknown B
    Only problem with it is it's not a scary enough wolf.
    (1:55:10)
  • Unknown A
    It's not.
    (1:55:12)
  • Unknown B
    Everything else was great.
    (1:55:13)
  • Unknown A
    It's not like America Werewolf in London. It's too much like the Wolf man, which is what it was kind of based on, like an updated version of the Wolf Man.
    (1:55:14)
  • Unknown B
    It's more like the same guy who.
    (1:55:21)
  • Unknown A
    Did that makeup, by the way, did the American Werewolf from London. That was Rick Baker.
    (1:55:23)
  • Unknown B
    It was like the teen wolf wolf was right.
    (1:55:26)
  • Unknown A
    Was. It was Rick Baker that did that, right? Yeah, Rick Baker. So the thing is, though, it was not cgi and that's what they were trying to achieve because, like, there's a difference between the way it looks when it's a dude with a mask on, it looks more realistic. Like it doesn't take you out of it. And there's something about CGI that even if the wolf looks good, it takes you out of it. Like the American Werewolf in London. You didn't get to see shit for like a long time. Like it was deep into that movie, saw flashes of the. The wolf. Until it was in Piccadilly Square and started like killing people. Remember that?
    (1:55:28)
  • Unknown B
    It's been a long time since I've seen that movie.
    (1:55:58)
  • Unknown A
    The guy turns into a werewolf in the movie theater. He goes to a dirty movie theater. So he's in this dirty movie theater and they're playing porno films. And he's talking to his dead friend, is telling him he's got to kill himself. He's going to become a wolf and kill people. And his friend is, like, rotting. It's hilarious. It's very funny. And he turns into the wolf in the movie theater, kills everybody, and then bursts out onto the street, starts killing people and trying traffic.
    (1:56:00)
  • Unknown B
    And I do remember, like, there's a scene with a subway scene, right?
    (1:56:22)
  • Unknown A
    Yes, there's a subway scene where there's a businessman, he's trying to get away, and he sees it, like, creeping up on him. That's a good scene, too, because you barely see the wolf. You see this guy running, and you know that it's coming after him. You see the terrified look in his face. At the end of the scene, you see the wolf enter into the frame at the bottom of the escalator where this guy's, like, completely exhausted and sliding down this escalator later.
    (1:56:26)
  • Unknown B
    You know, the scariest movie I've seen recently. I guess maybe scary ain't the right word, but it was the sequel to X.
    (1:56:50)
  • Unknown A
    The sequel to X.
    (1:56:56)
  • Unknown B
    And I'm forgetting the name of it. Yeah, not Malcolm X, but, like, it's the same. But the same girl played in both movies. You know what I'm talking about? It's called. She was like a. Okay, yeah. So the sequel to this movie.
    (1:56:57)
  • Unknown A
    So what is X?
    (1:57:09)
  • Unknown B
    It's about, like.
    (1:57:11)
  • Unknown A
    It's a slasher film.
    (1:57:13)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, it's a slasher film. Yeah. And the.
    (1:57:14)
  • Unknown A
    The.
    (1:57:16)
  • Unknown B
    But the sequel to it. Because I never saw that when I saw this. Okay, I still haven't seen X.
    (1:57:17)
  • Unknown C
    So Maxine with two X's, three X's.
    (1:57:23)
  • Unknown B
    No, no, that's not it. It's not Maxine.
    (1:57:28)
  • Unknown C
    Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I had to screen up.
    (1:57:29)
  • Unknown B
    My bad. No, that's not.
    (1:57:31)
  • Unknown C
    It said it was a sequel right here.
    (1:57:33)
  • Unknown B
    No, it's got that same girl in it. Who's this? No. Who's the star of this? Pearl. That's what I mean. So Pearl was a prequel. Oh, okay. I didn't realize. Okay, so. So Pearl came outside. I saw Pearl before. I haven't seen anything. The rest of these. This is. I liked it.
    (1:57:35)
  • Unknown A
    And she's a serial killer.
    (1:57:50)
  • Unknown B
    She's. She's insane.
    (1:57:52)
  • Unknown C
    No, this is not the.
    (1:57:55)
  • Unknown B
    But it's like, you kind of know she's the monster the whole time, but she doesn't become monstrous. It's kind of the same thing.
    (1:57:57)
  • Unknown A
    And she's cute.
    (1:58:04)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, she's cute. She's adorable. At first glance, I want to be special.
    (1:58:05)
  • Unknown A
    Dancing up on the screen like the.
    (1:58:20)
  • Unknown B
    Pretty girls in the pictures. I will not let you leave this farm again.
    (1:58:22)
  • Unknown A
    I'm worried there may be something real wrong with me. Rumor has it they only take one gal her town.
    (1:58:36)
  • Unknown B
    We're looking for someone with X Factor.
    (1:58:46)
  • Unknown A
    Has to be me. How about a film nobody else has seen? Is it legal? Will be eventually.
    (1:58:48)
  • Unknown B
    I know what I've done. The other dude's making a huge mistake. Terrible, awful, murderous things. I want to be loved from as many people as possible, but truth is.
    (1:59:01)
  • Unknown A
    I'm not really a good person. Jesus Christ.
    (1:59:18)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, bro. Like you want to talk about, like a.
    (1:59:24)
  • Unknown A
    Like this looks like.
    (1:59:26)
  • Unknown B
    Like this is just slipping in the insanity further and deeper and deeper and deeper.
    (1:59:28)
  • Unknown A
    I just don't think you should show this to America right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, after Luigi, after people celebrated Luigi. We don't want to, like, glorify people that just go on killing rampages.
    (1:59:32)
  • Unknown B
    It wasn't a rampage. In fact, that, you know, that's the thing. That's the thing I respect more is that, like, the people that, like, shoot up a place, it's like. It's like, if you mad at somebody, go after them. Why are you killing people? That got to do with your beef. Right. At least he was, like, specific. He didn't like.
    (1:59:44)
  • Unknown A
    That's another one that's been memory hold. The New Orleans guy just ran over.
    (2:00:01)
  • Unknown B
    All those people when the waters got.
    (2:00:05)
  • Unknown A
    You didn't hear about this?
    (2:00:07)
  • Unknown B
    No.
    (2:00:09)
  • Unknown A
    This was how long ago, Jamie?
    (2:00:09)
  • Unknown C
    That's the thing. New Year's Eve. They were like, within eight hours of each other. This.
    (2:00:11)
  • Unknown A
    And so this New Orleans guy turns down Bourbon street and just runs people over. Ran over, like 200 people. Bunch of people got fucked up. Bunch of people died. How many people died?
    (2:00:14)
  • Unknown C
    I think at least 14. Less.
    (2:00:23)
  • Unknown A
    I think like 200 people were injured. Wow, 14 people dead or more.
    (2:00:25)
  • Unknown B
    He was in the cyber truck, too.
    (2:00:30)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, and he was also. No, he was. Yeah, sorry, not a cyber truck. But he was also one of the guys from Fort Bragg. Like, we were talking about it yesterday with Metzger. Metzger will get you believe in conspiracies, bro. Metzger will take you down some rabbit holes.
    (2:00:31)
  • Unknown B
    He just hit you with so many, though.
    (2:00:47)
  • Unknown A
    So many.
    (2:00:49)
  • Unknown B
    I can't even get like, that's like his. Oh, you didn't know his entertainment.
    (2:00:50)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, yeah. It's his life.
    (2:00:54)
  • Unknown B
    And I'm on a complete opposite end of the spectrum.
    (2:00:56)
  • Unknown A
    Exactly.
    (2:00:58)
  • Unknown B
    I like to hear people that's into it talk about it, but I'm. But I'm never gonna go look it up.
    (2:00:59)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, well, he. Luckily, you know, Kurt gets it if you're like, dude, I can't right now. He'll stop if you say, I can't. I can't do this right now. I gotta go on stage in five minutes. I can't hear how many people Hillary Clinton killed.
    (2:01:03)
  • Unknown B
    I think he's. He probably is. Is a bunch rests at every conspiracy theory, Right.
    (2:01:15)
  • Unknown A
    But he believes a bunch of them that are kooky. He and I have had some conversations about ones. I'm like, why do you believe that? That one doesn't make any sense.
    (2:01:20)
  • Unknown B
    Because. Because the primary belief is that the official story is bullshit, 100%. So if you.
    (2:01:28)
  • Unknown A
    Probably true a lot of the time.
    (2:01:34)
  • Unknown B
    Right. But the way you run into logical trouble is it's like, just because they lying don't mean that the first alternative that people give you is the truth.
    (2:01:36)
  • Unknown A
    Right. Like some kooky YouTube video.
    (2:01:44)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
    (2:01:46)
  • Unknown A
    That's got it broken down.
    (2:01:46)
  • Unknown B
    So it's like, they don't want you to know.
    (2:01:48)
  • Unknown A
    I saw.
    (2:01:50)
  • Unknown B
    Bro. Have you. Did you see this shit? You know Godfrey, the comic? Yeah. So he had. I forget the name of the scientist, but he had, like, a scientist. Come on and debate Lord Jamar. Lord Jamar is a flat Earther. And it didn't go. It didn't go.
    (2:01:50)
  • Unknown A
    Well, of course it didn't. You know, that doesn't make any sense. Was that that Professor Dave guy? Yeah, Professor Dave's done quite a few of those. He's doing the world a nice favor.
    (2:02:08)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but it's like. But, bro, imagine. Imagine that being your whole life, it's just opposition.
    (2:02:18)
  • Unknown A
    Well, to what? To bad science. It's. To people getting led down a bad road and believing something that's uniquely preposterous. The Earth is flat.
    (2:02:23)
  • Unknown B
    You know Christopher Hitchens, right?
    (2:02:33)
  • Unknown A
    Sure.
    (2:02:34)
  • Unknown B
    He made his whole career. Career, like, debating Christians and Muslims. And he would, like, go to their churches and debate their leaders. And somebody asked him one time, like, hey, if you could snap your fingers and make all religion just go away, like, would you do that? And he was like, honestly, no. Cause I just like arguing with them too much or something to that effect. That was one of his exact words. But it was like, I think you gotta be a special kind of person to be like, no, I want all the smoke. I want to argue directly with people that I don't think.
    (2:02:34)
  • Unknown A
    Well, Christopher Hitches was uniquely brilliant. And he was so good at forming arguments and sentences, and he was. His grasp of the language was so expert.
    (2:03:09)
  • Unknown B
    He was a great speaker.
    (2:03:19)
  • Unknown A
    Amazing, amazing speaker. So that he would have these conversations with these people and they'd be like, woefully underprepared. They just. They couldn't handle. He also has an incredible amount of knowledge when it comes to religious religion, whether it's Christianity or Islam. And he'll call out everything that has ever happened that's terrible that every one of them has done. And he knows that information at the tip of his fingers at any given time.
    (2:03:20)
  • Unknown B
    I grew up religious, and he was the one that made me be like.
    (2:03:44)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, he makes some very, very, very compelling, logical arguments. Also. The problem with religion is that there's so many of them too, and they're so different, and they all think that they have the right one. That's a real problem. But I think the desire for religion seems to be a part of the structure of our thinking. It's like one of those things that reoccurs everywhere. There's groups of people, there's a desire for meaning, and then there's a connection to a higher power that we all seem to agree is not just likely, but you feel its presence every now and then.
    (2:03:47)
  • Unknown B
    But also it's like we're puzzled solving creatures like the. The need to have an answer to the puzzles.
    (2:04:22)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, yeah. And also to have a daddy. We always want someone who is above us, whether it's the president or the mayor or your father, whoever it is you. You want some person who's looking out for you and it is watching over everything and has a plan for all.
    (2:04:29)
  • Unknown B
    Until your God gets home, young man.
    (2:04:44)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, wait until you God is watching you jerk off.
    (2:04:46)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, man, that. That fucked me up for a little while when I. I was like, you.
    (2:04:49)
  • Unknown A
    Know, I was watching all the time.
    (2:04:53)
  • Unknown B
    Cause we used to go. When I was little, I would get. There was a church that was also a school. They were Christian school, but on Sunday they used the school buses to go pick up kids. Just like school, but it was for church, and we got sent to that. It wasn't even the church my grandmother went to. She just sent us to this one.
    (2:04:55)
  • Unknown A
    What is better, an overly religious childhood or a childhood filled with crime and violence? Violence. Clearly overly religious. Right? That's better because you can learn your way out of some stupid shit that they talked you into when you were young, depending on what the religion is. But crime and violence gets you killed. Someone else gets killed, you go to jail. It's not good. Like, it's definitely better in terms of, like, what is more compatible with Society to grow up very religious with very strict rules. And then maybe as you get older, you sort of recognize that.
    (2:05:13)
  • Unknown B
    I mean, doesn't it depend on which religion?
    (2:05:49)
  • Unknown A
    It does. It definitely does. It definitely does. I mean, you have some religions where you get a gang of wives.
    (2:05:51)
  • Unknown B
    Woo.
    (2:05:57)
  • Unknown A
    You get a. It does.
    (2:05:58)
  • Unknown B
    It sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
    (2:05:59)
  • Unknown A
    Yes. Well, that's the reason why the Mormons moved to Mexico.
    (2:06:01)
  • Unknown B
    They moved to Mexico?
    (2:06:06)
  • Unknown A
    What you mean you don't know about that?
    (2:06:06)
  • Unknown B
    They're not in Utah no more.
    (2:06:07)
  • Unknown A
    Listen, when Mitch. What's his. His name, the fucking guy ran for president.
    (2:06:09)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, Mitt Romney.
    (2:06:16)
  • Unknown A
    That's why I was fucking up. Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney's dad was born in Mexico, so his dad couldn't be president, but Mitt was born in America. Mitt Romney's family was Mormon, and they moved to Mexico in the 1800s because of religious persecution. And part of that was polygamy. They made polygamy illuminated illegal. So these guys will it. This is like the 1800s. They're like, Mexico ain't no different than America in the 1800s. Before cars, everyone's on a horse, you got a house, whatever, same. Let's go to Mexico. So they went to Mexico, and to this day, they have giant Mormon compounds in Mexico. And then recently there was a situation like they're armed to protect themselves against the cartel. It's like wild goes down and one of. I think it was like a family was killed. I think it might have been an accident that the cartel mistook them for someone else or someone did.
    (2:06:18)
  • Unknown A
    And there was like this real problem.
    (2:07:14)
  • Unknown B
    Did it get revamped?
    (2:07:15)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know what happened. I don't remember how the story went down, but I remember it was a big international story. And then everybody was like, wait, what's going on? There's giant camps of armed Mormons in Mexico.
    (2:07:16)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, they don't fuck around.
    (2:07:29)
  • Unknown A
    Like, why did they. Why did they move to Mexico? And that's why they moved to Mexico, because they have really religious freedom.
    (2:07:30)
  • Unknown B
    They don't fuck around, you know, religious freedom. They're at the forefront of shit. I bet you the Mormons got an app.
    (2:07:35)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, they probably have an app. Yeah, but, like, that's the story, right? That they were killed by the cartel. I think it was a woman and her child was killed by the cartel.
    (2:07:38)
  • Unknown C
    Six children.
    (2:07:48)
  • Unknown A
    Three women. Six children. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Attacking a group of Mormon families in Mexico. So nine women. Scroll back up. Nine women and children from a Mormon community in Mexico were killed While traveling in the three car caravan south of the U. S. Mexico border on Monday. Three women and six children, all with dual U.S. mexican citizenship, were killed in the attack. Security Minister Alfonso Durazzo said a news conference Tuesday. Here's what we know about the attack. The victims were all shot while in the vehicles, while driving. Investigators believe the three vehicles traveling between the Mexican states of Sonora and Chihuahua were ambushed by criminal groups Monday. Mexican authorities said women and children between 14 years old and 10, 10 months were massacred, burned alive, Lebaron said. Mothers were screaming for the fire to stop. They were driving together for safety reasons, said Kendrick Lee Miller, whose sister in law was killed in the attack.
    (2:07:48)
  • Unknown A
    The family was supposed to go to Miller's wedding next week in Lamora. She said, wow.
    (2:08:44)
  • Unknown B
    How'd she know they were screaming? She. Was she there?
    (2:08:50)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know, man. I don't think everybody died. Five children who were hospitalized in Tucson will survive, while Jessup, whose son married Donna Langford's daughter, told c. Cnn Willie Jessup. Excuse me. Three of the children have very serious injuries, but two others could be discharged.
    (2:08:52)
  • Unknown B
    Soon and they weren't connected to that dope shit. They got to be.
    (2:09:08)
  • Unknown A
    Well, I don't know because they said it was a mistake of mistaken identity, but they always.
    (2:09:12)
  • Unknown B
    Because, listen, this is why that don't make sense to me.
    (2:09:17)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, no, no, they don't say that. It says not clear if the attacks were specifically targeted or if the family was a case of mistaken identity.
    (2:09:19)
  • Unknown B
    You don't accidentally shoot the wrong case. I mean, what's the chances that as another caravan look just like yours?
    (2:09:26)
  • Unknown A
    Well, here's what it says. It said Castanada said there were long standing tensions between the families and the cartels. He said one of the women killed was an activist and there were frictions over water rights. Oh, Jesus Christ. Who? Scary dog.
    (2:09:31)
  • Unknown B
    I mean, it's scary for whoever live down there. Yeah, I feel pretty safe where I'm at.
    (2:09:49)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, but imagine living in a place that's controlled by the cartel. Like, you know, the government has its faults in the United States, but it's a superior system.
    (2:09:54)
  • Unknown B
    But hasn't the Mexican government like started cracking down on the cartel?
    (2:10:02)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know.
    (2:10:05)
  • Unknown B
    They did that shit somewhere. I mean, I'm pretty sure the dude is a dictator, but he just. He just locked everybody up.
    (2:10:06)
  • Unknown A
    Venezuela.
    (2:10:13)
  • Unknown B
    It's Venezuela.
    (2:10:14)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, they just, they. They literally imprisoned all the gang members.
    (2:10:14)
  • Unknown B
    They just locked every single. Even if he was a. If he was a social.
    (2:10:18)
  • Unknown A
    They made these giant prisons and they just filled the Prisons up with gang members and the stop. The crime just stopped.
    (2:10:21)
  • Unknown B
    But that was the immediate effect. Is that still the case now?
    (2:10:28)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know. It's a good question. Like, you know, is that what they're gonna do forever? They're just gonna keep these guys in that cage for the rest of their lives?
    (2:10:31)
  • Unknown B
    That's expensive.
    (2:10:37)
  • Unknown A
    It is expensive, but is it less expensive than letting them wreak havoc and ruin your entire community? I don't know. It's a very totalitarian thing.
    (2:10:38)
  • Unknown B
    That depends on who you give about.
    (2:10:47)
  • Unknown A
    What's also depends on like how many of those people were set up, how many people weren't actually in a gang, how many people were like, maybe somebody doesn't like you. I mean, probably a little bit of that going.
    (2:10:49)
  • Unknown B
    That type of situation was like a drastic change.
    (2:10:56)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (2:10:59)
  • Unknown B
    And they rounding up hundreds of thousands of people.
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  • Unknown A
    Right.
    (2:11:01)
  • Unknown B
    There's gonna be a couple of revenge joints slipped in there.
    (2:11:01)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (2:11:04)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, damn. Sorry, Jorge. I accidentally put.
    (2:11:04)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, crazy. Oh, El Salvador.
    (2:11:08)
  • Unknown B
    It's not.
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  • Unknown A
    It's not Venezuela, it's El Salvador. Look at that. Oh, my God. They just said, fuck it. We're just gonna take crime down to zero.
    (2:11:12)
  • Unknown B
    So just life in prison.
    (2:11:21)
  • Unknown A
    Well, you know what, man? I mean, is this better? It seems like it's better than having the criminals run society and kill everybody.
    (2:11:22)
  • Unknown B
    I mean, but at least like get them on some bicycles, provide free power or something, I don't know.
    (2:11:29)
  • Unknown A
    And what have they done? You know? But also, if you grow up in that community, what are you gonna do? Like, if you grow up and your whole family's involved in the community gangs, like, what do you do? Like, you're. You're literally guilty by birth. You know, if you grow up in those communities and that's all they've been doing forever, what do you do? What do you do?
    (2:11:33)
  • Unknown B
    You know, how do you sustain that too?
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  • Unknown A
    Right. I guess if you have enough money. Because now you don't have to fight crime anymore. So now everybody's locked up, it's dark.
    (2:11:55)
  • Unknown B
    Well, it's just gonna be new criminals.
    (2:12:04)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. What. What could fix the world, Brian Simpson? Is it going to be technology? Is it going to be mushrooms?
    (2:12:05)
  • Unknown B
    You know my stance. We done. Nothing's going to fix this shit, bro. We're cooked. We passed the point of no return.
    (2:12:12)
  • Unknown A
    But why do you think that, though? Because people can exist in small groups together in harmony. Why can't they exist together in large groups in harmony?
    (2:12:19)
  • Unknown B
    Because I think people are less intelligent in the way in large groups. The larger the group, the dumber the average iq, I bet like in terms of like how people behave.
    (2:12:26)
  • Unknown A
    Well, I think also in large groups you don't have to think as much because things are like set up for you.
    (2:12:37)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. And it's just because you know how I know we're doomed.
    (2:12:41)
  • Unknown A
    Okay.
    (2:12:44)
  • Unknown B
    Online gaming, when you go, go play a team. I'm playing this Marvel rival shit. Everybody playing now. But it's like try to get matched up randomly with five other people and get everybody to cooperate. And how often you come across people that are just completely self selfish to the point where like they'll lose, they'll lose on purpose, like, and they, they take the penalty for losing too. But just to ruin your day.
    (2:12:45)
  • Unknown A
    Well, that's just randoms that you're meeting online though.
    (2:13:08)
  • Unknown B
    Right?
    (2:13:11)
  • Unknown A
    But I mean you got to cultivate.
    (2:13:11)
  • Unknown B
    You see, or you see how people communicate. And obviously the gaming is a certain demographic. But I just mean incels. It just reminds me. No, no, it's like. No, it's not incels. There's regular people out there that's just act like assholes when they, when they're.
    (2:13:12)
  • Unknown A
    Anonymous because they can. Yeah.
    (2:13:24)
  • Unknown B
    So people, people will do selfish. Or you see these game shows where it's like, you know, it's that whole, what's it called? The Prisoner's Dilemma or whatever. Oh yeah, we could all win. Or I could win.
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  • Unknown A
    Right.
    (2:13:37)
  • Unknown B
    And how often do you see people just go.
    (2:13:37)
  • Unknown A
    All the time. All of y'all. And they probably encourage you to do it because it makes for good tv.
    (2:13:38)
  • Unknown B
    So look, and I know, look, there's good people out there. I meet extraordinary people all the time now. Especially now that I live here. I meet people all the time. That's like, wow. You like, if it was more people like you, yes, we would be good. But it's so little people like you.
    (2:13:42)
  • Unknown A
    Right, but how many people like that do you know now? You know a lot, right? You know a lot more.
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  • Unknown B
    Not enough.
    (2:13:59)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, but you know a lot more. And the key is just to try to limit your associations with people who aren't exceptional. Try to be exceptional first of all, to attract exceptional, exceptional people and then kind of like encourage other. You got to surround yourself with people that are cool. Like surround yourself with people that are interesting. Surround yourself with people that are exceptional. It gives you like energy in this life. It gives you like motivation.
    (2:14:00)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, everything. You got to make new friends. I'm not with that either.
    (2:14:25)
  • Unknown A
    Some friends are worth making, some new friends are worth making. But I know what you're saying.
    (2:14:30)
  • Unknown B
    I know what you're Saying I can make a new. I'm very emotionally unavailable, so I just need friends that don't need that. You know what I mean?
    (2:14:34)
  • Unknown A
    That's interesting you say that because you're very friendly. I don't know why you think you're emotionally unavailable. I think you just don't like to be bothered by nonsense that people could fix on their own.
    (2:14:44)
  • Unknown B
    There you go. I'm very easily irritated.
    (2:14:51)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, but it's not. You're not emotionally unavailable. Like, when we talk about stuff, like everybody talks about stuff in the green room. You're, like, one of the most, like, honest people.
    (2:14:53)
  • Unknown B
    But maybe emotionally unavailable is not the right word. But I'm very. I feel very much burdened by unexpected obligations.
    (2:15:02)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (2:15:09)
  • Unknown B
    So, like, if you hit me with some last minute shit, or you're like, are you. Or you constantly need me because I be there for you, but if you're constantly needing stuff and it's good to.
    (2:15:10)
  • Unknown A
    Exactly. But you. You got to realize that's a transactional situation. That's a bad situation. That's not a situ.
    (2:15:19)
  • Unknown B
    You.
    (2:15:27)
  • Unknown A
    You haven't surround yourself with people that are, like, autonomous.
    (2:15:27)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, yeah.
    (2:15:30)
  • Unknown A
    There's a lot of people that aren't. They, like, need friends for everything they do, and they can't make decisions. They don't get their together, bro.
    (2:15:31)
  • Unknown B
    You know what? I love being by myself. I love. I love going to a restaurant alone. I love company, but I'll go to the movies alone. I like being alone. I like shopping alone.
    (2:15:37)
  • Unknown A
    Well, you have a balance or you spend enough time in front of, like, thousands of people.
    (2:15:48)
  • Unknown B
    Because you know what? I don't like. I don't like variables. It's like, the more people that come, the more shit could switch up, the more.
    (2:15:52)
  • Unknown A
    That's true. Oh, yeah. And also, you get, like, all these social dynamics at play when there's a bunch of people together.
    (2:15:59)
  • Unknown B
    Like, look, like we. How many. How many times have we eaten dinner? What would you say is the perfect amount of people to bring the dinner?
    (2:16:04)
  • Unknown A
    It depends. There was this one time. I don't want to say the time, but where there was a bunch of us and a bunch of other people. And it really helped that there was a bunch of us because we all huddled up together.
    (2:16:11)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, right, right.
    (2:16:20)
  • Unknown A
    Remember that time?
    (2:16:20)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and don't forget Vegas was great. It was a lot of people at that table then.
    (2:16:21)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, yeah. But we knew all those people.
    (2:16:25)
  • Unknown B
    Right, right, right.
    (2:16:28)
  • Unknown A
    You know, those all people were like close friends. It was. It was a good time. It was. It wasn't like there was no social dynamics at play. You know, when we're all hanging out, it's generally just fun. There's no, like one person's trying to get to the top.
    (2:16:28)
  • Unknown B
    Comics are different. Yeah, but I say. But just. But six is. For me, six is a good number. If I hear that it's gonna be more than six now, it's like it's gonna be separate conversations and it's gonna be.
    (2:16:43)
  • Unknown A
    And what if Bob can't drink? What if Bob starts drinking? He gets real loud, right?
    (2:16:53)
  • Unknown B
    And then you want vegan options.
    (2:16:57)
  • Unknown A
    If someone's not gluten. Gluten free, please. Do you have a gluten free menu?
    (2:17:00)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but. But yeah, yeah, I just. I don't like being in big groups.
    (2:17:05)
  • Unknown A
    Right. I know what you mean. I get it. I get it. It's like, you know, like when you're a group of people and then one person has a friend that they tell you is cool. Don't worry, Bob's cool.
    (2:17:09)
  • Unknown B
    Like bro, my middle name could be who all gonna be there.
    (2:17:20)
  • Unknown A
    Right?
    (2:17:24)
  • Unknown B
    You invite me to something because, because even now, like my, like Derek and them, they'll invite me to stuff, you know, they don't. I'm not coming, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, do it. Come to the. Nah. Okay, I'm good.
    (2:17:24)
  • Unknown A
    But that's also like a reflection on your sense of humor because you're always finding things that are stupid and everything. Your act is essentially. Let me tell you about some stupid shit.
    (2:17:33)
  • Unknown B
    It's a gift of the curse.
    (2:17:48)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, it's a gift.
    (2:17:50)
  • Unknown B
    That's why I say, like, ignorance is bliss. When you notice too much, you can't be happy. You can't possibly be happy. Or you got to distract yourself with like, you can be happy for a second when you're on, on a drug or having a good time.
    (2:17:51)
  • Unknown A
    Right.
    (2:18:03)
  • Unknown B
    But eventually you go, yeah. How did that fucking helicopter crash into a plane?
    (2:18:03)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. You think about all these different variables. You know, I used to say that to my students when they would fight because a lot of them that were really smart, I would notice they would be much more nervous. What did you teach than the dumb kids? Martial arts. What do you mean?
    (2:18:09)
  • Unknown B
    Of course it's martial arts. But my dumb ass. My mind went to like you teaching in the classroom, like with a professor.
    (2:18:29)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, and they would fight? No, no, no, no. I mean, I'd take them to tournaments. So I had students that I would take to tournaments. And the really smart ones would be the most scared. And I would have to tell them it's because you're smart. The reason why you're scared is because you're aware of all the variables and you know your vulnerability. Whereas dumb people don't think that they're overconfident and they're not aware of all the variables. But you can overcome this. I'll be like, I did it too. I have the same feeling. I don't want to do it. It's stupid. Why am I doing this? Why am I risking my health? Why am I risking my safety? You have all those thoughts that are going to go in your head, but you're going to learn something about yourself from doing this. And you're smart and that's why you're nervous.
    (2:18:36)
  • Unknown A
    And you should be nervous because it'll help you. It'll help you move faster. I used to use custom autos, except expression. The custom auto, this great thing that he told Mike Tyson. He said, fear is like a fire. It can cook your food if you can control it, or it could burn your house down. That's what it's like. It's like that. But the intelligent people are the ones that are aware of it. The intelligent people are the ones that oftentimes struggle the most with overcoming anxiety to compete because they're aware of how fucking dangerous this actually is. They're not blissfully unaware, like a moral moron is walking into a cage fight not knowing they might get knocked the out. You know, not gonna happen to me, bro. There's a lot of those not gonna happen to me, bro, guys.
    (2:19:11)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, but you can still be world champion and be that person.
    (2:19:52)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, well, if you're gifted, right, if you're gifted and if you're genetically gifted, you know, and if you're, you're driven and you really work hard and you enjoy it, yeah, you could get pretty far.
    (2:19:54)
  • Unknown B
    You're not gonna talk well, you're not gonna speak well.
    (2:20:04)
  • Unknown A
    And like, at the end. Yeah, at the end it's gonna be.
    (2:20:06)
  • Unknown B
    Because it's amazing to me. Like, that's another thing, like, we talk about legacy and stuff like that, but. But MMA wise, Jon Jones is like the equivalent to Floyd Mayweather in terms of like, how little damage he's taken over.
    (2:20:10)
  • Unknown A
    Yes, there was a few fights where they were real rough. The Dominic Reyes fight was real rough. He got hit a bunch of times in that fight. He got caught a few times by Lyota Machida before he put him to sleep. Liotto was catching him a few. He hit him with one big left hand. Rashad Evans clipped him with a big right hand. But for the most part. John is the very best at utilizing distance and also having a strategy.
    (2:20:23)
  • Unknown B
    He said that was the hardest he ever got hit.
    (2:20:43)
  • Unknown A
    Rashad. Yeah, Rashad knocked Chuck Liddell out cold. That punch, remember? Yeah, out cold. One shot.
    (2:20:44)
  • Unknown B
    Was that the first time got knocked out?
    (2:20:51)
  • Unknown A
    No. Chocolate had gotten stopped by Rampage and Pride.
    (2:20:54)
  • Unknown B
    Okay.
    (2:20:57)
  • Unknown A
    And then Chocolate. I mean, he. He'd been stopped a few times.
    (2:20:58)
  • Unknown B
    I mean, like, I think Shogun stopped.
    (2:21:01)
  • Unknown A
    No, because Rampage stopped him during his rise. Like, Rampage stopped him when the ufc, when he was a champ in the. Or maybe he wasn't the champ. He was, like, the best guy or one. Like, it was like Tito was the champ for a little. Before Chuck fought Tito, and everybody knew that Chuck was going to beat Tito. It was one of those things where, like, this is a bad matchup because Chuck is a really good wrestler and just a ferocious striker. Ferocious and so aggressive and just nasty. Power. Power. And just would throw himself into the wars. Throw himself. He had an iron chin, so you just. You. He just throw himself. And really skillful, too, man. Like, underrated skills, but just a desire for the firefight that was like nobody else. But Rampage beat him. Rampage stopped him in Pride. So they had an exchange where they were going to send UFC fighters over to.
    (2:21:05)
  • Unknown A
    Over to Pride to fight the best Pride guys, and Chuck was one of the best UFC guys. And Rampage stopped him. And Chuck fought Alistair Overeem. And Alistair Overeem was doing really well, but Alistair.
    (2:21:55)
  • Unknown B
    Damn.
    (2:22:08)
  • Unknown A
    Chuck stopped Alistair.
    (2:22:08)
  • Unknown B
    Just that bis, though Rampage used to have.
    (2:22:10)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, bro. This was when Chuck was Chuck, right? This is not, like, past his prime Chuck. This was, like, in his prime Chuck. But Rampage was ferocious. He was so good. And Pride had knees to the head on the ground, all this. This. And Rampage, eventually, I believe he stopped him with, like, body shots on the ground, if I remember correctly. I remember he just beat him up, and then they stopped the fight. I think he just got on top of him at one point in time. It was a grueling fight, though. But I think this is, like, the end of it right here. He was just beating him down and eventually stopped the fight. So these punches to the face and then just dig into the body.
    (2:22:12)
  • Unknown B
    Tiny. That reference. He is.
    (2:22:51)
  • Unknown A
    I know. And then it looks like he got on top of him. Yeah, he got full mount, and then they stopped the fight. Yeah, that was Rampage in his prime. Rampage in his prime was.
    (2:22:52)
  • Unknown B
    I saw a video of somebody talking to him. Like one of the young fighters now talking to him.
    (2:23:09)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, it's Kevin Holland. Oh, yeah, yeah. Kevin Holland. And him had some sort of a disagreement.
    (2:23:13)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. So they don't get that. He don't get, like, legend status. Like, when you gotta let it slide.
    (2:23:18)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know. Young guys are. You know how they are.
    (2:23:22)
  • Unknown B
    Cause that's like. That's like. Like if Randy Couture say something out of pocket.
    (2:23:25)
  • Unknown A
    Right, Right.
    (2:23:28)
  • Unknown B
    You're a fighter, like, you kinda gotta let that slide.
    (2:23:28)
  • Unknown A
    You gotta let it slide. He's a legend. Rampage is a legend. You know, it's like, there's a lot of guys, you just, you know, when you talk about BJ Penn, talk about him with respect.
    (2:23:30)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. Cause also, like, it doesn't. It doesn't look good.
    (2:23:38)
  • Unknown A
    No, you are especially, like, I'll fight you right now. Like, that kind of like.
    (2:23:42)
  • Unknown B
    Right. That's not a good look.
    (2:23:47)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, Especially the guy, like, paved the way like Rampage was. This was like when Rampage fought Chuck. What year was that? Was that like 2003? What year was that?
    (2:23:48)
  • Unknown B
    I'm a guess.
    (2:23:58)
  • Unknown A
    I'm gonna guess 05, was it 2007?
    (2:23:58)
  • Unknown C
    Oh, wait, this is the UFC. Though that pride fight was different.
    (2:24:01)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, the Rampage knocked Chuck out.
    (2:24:04)
  • Unknown B
    It was like, oh, five.
    (2:24:06)
  • Unknown A
    Probably in the UFC too. Rampage caught Chuck with a. A right hook. 2003. So then they fought again in 2007. Is that what happened? Show that one. Yeah, Rampage knocked out Vanderlei Silva. He lost to Vanderlee Silva twice, though, brutally in. In the. In Pride. The one of the fights was fucking brutal. Brutal, brutal. Knockout. He got kneed in the face and went through the ropes on unconscious. So this is Chuck and Rampage in the ufc. This is when Rampage won the title. And, you know, Chuck had already fought him once and got stopped, so he was wary. But this was when.
    (2:24:07)
  • Unknown B
    This is way past his pride, Truck, right?
    (2:24:48)
  • Unknown A
    No, he was in his prime, man. He was still in his prime. He was the champion. Chuck was the champion at this point in time. But Rampage was good, man. He was good. Good and just so dangerous. Boom. And I was saying, he's the funniest guy in mma. He's very funny. I actually interviewed him on. I did that UFC show for a while. I forget what it's called, but it was. We hung out together, we rolled, we did jiu jitsu, went and got something to eat. But he's very funny, dude. He used to have this crazy monster truck. There it is. Boom. That's how he won the title.
    (2:24:49)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, it was awesome.
    (2:25:45)
  • Unknown A
    Chuck's confused, but, you know, that's what happens when you get knocked out. You don't know what the Happened. You think you're fine.
    (2:25:47)
  • Unknown B
    Really?
    (2:25:53)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. You don't know what happened. You get shut off. You're like, what happened? Like, sometimes guys get shut off and then they dive for the. The referee's legs and they think they're still fighting. They take the referee down.
    (2:25:54)
  • Unknown B
    I seen the dude swinging at the ref.
    (2:26:03)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, yeah. They don't know what's happening. I mean, a lot of these guys are on, like, full fight or flight after they get tagged. They're just in. It's just chaos. They don't know what they're seeing. Referees get hit all the time. Yeah.
    (2:26:05)
  • Unknown B
    That's what I was like, look how tiny that. You saw tiny. That motherfucker was like, what you gonna do? What are you. What are you saying? Stopping in there.
    (2:26:16)
  • Unknown A
    Right? How are you going to get rampaged off of Chocolate?
    (2:26:20)
  • Unknown B
    Herb being like, dive it.
    (2:26:23)
  • Unknown A
    Right. Right.
    (2:26:25)
  • Unknown B
    Move them.
    (2:26:25)
  • Unknown A
    Well, you need. Herb's a big guy, you know, that's what you want. Or a strong person. Like, you have to have, like, physical.
    (2:26:26)
  • Unknown B
    Ask you politely.
    (2:26:33)
  • Unknown A
    Can you imagine, like, Francis is fighting as Francis fights. How are you going to get Francis off somebody?
    (2:26:33)
  • Unknown B
    Right?
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  • Unknown A
    Like, how are you even going to move him?
    (2:26:39)
  • Unknown B
    And it's like, there's no way that, like, Herb Dean stronger than Francis and Gano impossible. But it's like. But you got to be strong enough that they feel you snapped him out, you know?
    (2:26:41)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. You can't be 125 pounds and refereeing that fight.
    (2:26:49)
  • Unknown B
    I thought that was a woman at first.
    (2:26:52)
  • Unknown A
    Mark Goddard's good, too. He's a big dude.
    (2:26:53)
  • Unknown B
    Mark Goddard?
    (2:26:55)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah. He's great for those big fights.
    (2:26:56)
  • Unknown B
    I don't think I ever seen him in person.
    (2:26:58)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, you've seen Mark.
    (2:26:59)
  • Unknown B
    I met Herb Dean.
    (2:27:00)
  • Unknown A
    He's one of the best referees. The best referees. I mean, there's quite a few of them that are really, really good, but I always say the gold standard turb. He's the gold standard. And Big John, when he was doing it, he was the gold standard.
    (2:27:01)
  • Unknown B
    Stop.
    (2:27:11)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, he does commentary now. John does commentary. Well, he's doing it for Bellator, but I think Bellator is now no longer so. He also has a podcast with Josh.
    (2:27:11)
  • Unknown B
    Thompson, referee that Dana White hated it.
    (2:27:21)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (2:27:24)
  • Unknown B
    What happened to him? Does he still reference.
    (2:27:25)
  • Unknown A
    I don't know. I haven't seen him in a while. I think I saw him at a kickboxing event many years later.
    (2:27:27)
  • Unknown B
    That dude was never going to work again. Like, that's why I should. To say and mean it. Yeah.
    (2:27:32)
  • Unknown A
    People make mistakes, you know.
    (2:27:37)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. But what did he what was his fuck up, though? He. He fucked up bad.
    (2:27:40)
  • Unknown A
    He fucked up a few of them. There's a few of those guys that fucked up a few too many fights and then they just, you know, you just can't after a while. We need someone reliable. When you got a guy like Mark Goddard who almost never fucks, everybody is gonna fuck up. They have the second hardest job. The first hardest job is the fighter. Second hardest job is the referee.
    (2:27:43)
  • Unknown B
    Right.
    (2:28:01)
  • Unknown A
    Third hardest job is probably the joke judge. My job's easy.
    (2:28:01)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah. And the ref, the ref, they can only see from one angle, but we.
    (2:28:06)
  • Unknown A
    Miss all the time. And we have monitors. At least the refs have. Or, excuse me, the judges have monitors now. They didn't used to have monitors in the early days. We had a fight to get them monitors. We're like, we should be able to show them stuff in the replay that the crowd is seeing. Because sometimes you think a guy got knocked down, but he didn't. He just tripped and it looks like he got knocked down, but really he just got punched on the shoulder and they just fell down. That happened in that fight with Islam, Makhachev and Moikano. Moikano caught him with a right hand. It looked like he hit him. We thought he dropped him. But really what happened is he kind of hit him in, like, the shoulder and they tripped, legs together, and Islam fell down. And then Islam got. Well, we thought he was hurt.
    (2:28:11)
  • Unknown A
    So if you were judging that, I mean, Islam finished him in the first round, he subbed him in the first round, so it didn't matter. But if you saw that fight and if that went to the distance and you said, oh, my God, he's hurting him. He's. He's. He's rocking him on the feet, you would maybe score that round for Moicano when, if you saw the replay, oh, he didn't rock him. He just slipped. So you don't have a monitor.
    (2:28:55)
  • Unknown B
    Can they hear you all too?
    (2:29:17)
  • Unknown A
    No, they shouldn't be able to hear us because maybe, yeah, maybe we frame it in a way that's different than the way they think. The whole reason to have three different point of views is to have three different expert perspectives. You don't want them hearing what me and DC Are saying.
    (2:29:18)
  • Unknown B
    Right, right, right, right.
    (2:29:32)
  • Unknown A
    You want them, like, watching the fight, because if we're on someone's nuts, you know, and then this guy's like, oh, he definitely is winning, you know, and maybe the people at home are like, fuck you, the other guy was winning. Like, there's a few of Those fights.
    (2:29:33)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, some were. It has, it's been a while. No it hasn't. Since it was like a really questionable one.
    (2:29:44)
  • Unknown A
    You know what's an interesting one? Not a questionable one but an interesting one is Merab versus Umar. So Merab Dwavish Willi and Umar Nurmagomedov, they go to the distance, five round fight. Merab winds up winning a decision.
    (2:29:50)
  • Unknown B
    Those on that same card.
    (2:30:02)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, amazing fight, amazing fight. Probably the best 135 pound title fight in the history of the sport. It was incredible. It was so well matched. They went back and forth. Umar apparently broke his hand in the first round, was still throwing it for the whole fight. He took, he wound up taking marab down and nobody expected that. He got marabout. He won the first two rounds and the question is the third round. And so I watched it a couple of times and me and John Anik and Daniel Cormier have been going back and forth with text about this. I was like man, that third round is so close. It's so close. I could see judges giving it to Umar. He landed more strikes on the feet. He did get one takedown. Merab got a couple takedowns but he didn't do much with the takedown. But Daniel had a really good point that at the end of it Moran Rob's was accelerating and it looked like Umar was starting to get tired.
    (2:30:03)
  • Unknown B
    See I thought, see I tuned in at that point. I started that pay per view at that third round. So I hadn't seen the previous two rounds.
    (2:30:53)
  • Unknown A
    But at the end of the third round Umar has Merab's back, he's behind him and he's controlling him against the cage. And he had wound up taking Merab down at one point in time. So it's like he landed a lot of strikes on the feet. Like probably did more actual damage. But Merab did take him down more and Merab was pushing the pace and Merab did also land shots like it was close. It's the third round that's the real close one because I gave the first two rounds to Umar and then you get into the third you're like ooh, that's the one. That one's close because the fourth and the fifth were clearly Merab was coming on strong. Merab was like put. It was astonishing. His endurance astonishing. His cardiovascular systems off the charts.
    (2:31:01)
  • Unknown B
    It was a good ass fight.
    (2:31:47)
  • Unknown A
    His cardio is insanity. It's insanity.
    (2:31:48)
  • Unknown B
    It's like Michael Chandler.
    (2:31:52)
  • Unknown A
    But I would be very happy to see that fight again. Very happy.
    (2:31:53)
  • Unknown B
    I never see Michael Chandler get tired.
    (2:31:56)
  • Unknown A
    Incredible.
    (2:31:58)
  • Unknown B
    Like, remember his last fight when he lost? Yeah, yeah, but he's, he's sitting there standing up with a. On his back in the last round. Yeah, like I never see him get tired.
    (2:31:59)
  • Unknown A
    No, he's an animal. Well, he trains like nobody. I mean, his strength and conditioning routines, you can watch them online, they're fucking crazy. Cam Haynes went and trained with him once. Said the guy's a maniac. But that's his weapon. Like to have that kind of cardio, that kind of discipline, to have that kind of cardio. Some people just have work ethic. It's also the work ethic, man. You have to have that work ethic because he's been doing it for a long time and to still have that work ethic.
    (2:32:08)
  • Unknown B
    That's what I mean. Even the best, the best people in the world, they get tired of it, you know?
    (2:32:34)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, he's not tired of it, man. He's definitely not tired of it. He's still excited. I mean, Oliveira is one of the best in the world. He had Oliveira hurt in that third round. He had him hurt like he had some moments in that third round. We were like, holy shit. Like, this is a real fight and Oliveira is as good as it gets. He's one of the best submission artists in the history of the sport. And he couldn't get him. Yeah, got him the first fight, though. First fight he KO'd. Remember he hit him with that clean left hook.
    (2:32:38)
  • Unknown B
    I don't remember.
    (2:33:05)
  • Unknown A
    Chandler had him real hurt in the first round. Rocked on the, on his back, fighting him off in the first round. And then they start in the second round. Chandler moves straight to him and Oliveira just pieces him up.
    (2:33:06)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, yeah, I do remember. Yeah, I do remember that.
    (2:33:16)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, he hit him with a clean left hook. It was clean.
    (2:33:19)
  • Unknown B
    I think I was there.
    (2:33:21)
  • Unknown A
    You might have been there.
    (2:33:22)
  • Unknown B
    Yeah, man, we, we, we, man. Yeah, we have some good ass fights this year. And now. Oh, and, and now Crawford's about to fight.
    (2:33:23)
  • Unknown A
    Yes, he's gonna fight Canelo. I just hope he's big enough. I hope he's big enough to keep that dude off him. Cuz Canelo hits so hard, man.
    (2:33:31)
  • Unknown B
    That's one dude that like, I believe all the. He be talking Crawford.
    (2:33:41)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah, yeah. Oh, he's good.
    (2:33:45)
  • Unknown B
    He don't just be saying they, they.
    (2:33:46)
  • Unknown A
    Try to say that like, Errol Spence was damaged because of what Crawford did to him because he was damaged from the, the car accident. I'm like, maybe, or maybe Crawford would have done that three years ago. I think he's that good. He's just so skillful. He's so slick. And when he gets. And he's also the best guy in the sport at switch hitting, he'll go from southpaw to orthodox and be just as good and trip you up like, you think he's going to start southpaw. He starts orthodox, you prepare for orthodox. He's fighting southpaw. He feels like he's got you timed better. Orthodox. He'll switch it up.
    (2:33:48)
  • Unknown B
    Super accurate.
    (2:34:20)
  • Unknown A
    Oh, just know so much about boxing, about where to be and what's coming.
    (2:34:21)
  • Unknown B
    And he makes it. Just. He makes it. He's a. He's a strategist. That's also entertaining.
    (2:34:26)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (2:34:31)
  • Unknown B
    You know, I mean, he's like.
    (2:34:31)
  • Unknown A
    He's an artist.
    (2:34:32)
  • Unknown B
    Like, remember, like a young. Like young B hop. Yeah, it was like.
    (2:34:32)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (2:34:36)
  • Unknown B
    Just so sharp and made it look.
    (2:34:36)
  • Unknown A
    Yeah.
    (2:34:38)
  • Unknown B
    Entertaining.
    (2:34:38)
  • Unknown A
    You know, Roy Jones in his prime. It was art. You were watching art. He's piecing up people. It was an art form. All right, Brian Simpson, let's wrap this up. Bring it home, everybody. BS comedian on Twitter BS comedian on.
    (2:34:39)
  • Unknown B
    Instagram bransoncomedy.com for tour tickets.
    (2:34:54)
  • Unknown A
    Netflix Special Live from the Mothership. Bam.
    (2:34:57)
  • Unknown B
    Streaming right now.
    (2:35:00)
  • Unknown A
    That's it. Thank you, brother.
    (2:35:00)
  • Unknown B
    Later.
    (2:35:02)
  • Unknown A
    Bye. Thank you.
    (2:35:02)
  • Unknown B
    Oh, one thing we forgot to talk about. I wanted to thank you for sending people to go watch that clip of WaPo and YouTube. Oh, I got a lot of.
    (2:35:03)
  • Unknown A
    One of the best videos or one of the best bits of all time. I love that. All right, go see it. It's on YouTube. Bye, everybody.
    (2:35:13)